Political polling
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Kaka Tim
Half Arsed and Slapdash till I Die
exactly whats been happening since the 2008 crash - brexit tories, trump and populist right wing demagogues in eastern europe and brazil - all using the same playbook.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Yes, though I wouldn't say they've lost the economic argument as much as buried or nullified it, using 'culture war' narratives & drivers to accentuate their kleptocratic control.
maomao
普費斯
Anything more than about 5mm from the bottom left hand corner is basically fascism.
Not sure what they've based the economic values of Labour MPs on. Corbyn's last manifesto presumably as Starmer hasn't issued a manifesto or clear economic policies yet. That dot needs to be the other side of the centre line at least.
platinumsage
HaveMyPassword123
Similar by their metric the social policies of Cameron would probably have put his government in the bottom right in the same quadrant as Starmer.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
May well have been so, though Ipsos Mori don't offer a position for the collective Government or Opposition, merely the MPs that have (presumably) responded to their survey fieldwork.
chilango
Hypothetical Wanker
Still worth experimenting on them before moving on to human trials though...
Turning the Tories into a socially liberal party as well as an economically liberal one was always part of the Cameron project. It was designed to appeal to the kind of middle-class voter who doesn't care about gay marriage and isn't a raving racist but does think there are too many people on benefits, public-sector workers get paid too much and local authorities spend their time thinking up ways to waste as much money as possible. It was working, too, until he bet the farm on his referendum and lost.
ska invita
back on the other side
ive scraped these from google images / uk polling report - cant find more but they probably exist
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Useful; thanks.ive scraped these from google images / uk polling report - cant find more but they probably exist
Looking at that last one shows where New Labour where 10 years into power...sort of where the Tories are now.
Albeit with current lower LD numbers it does seem to indicate the potency of the Brexit loyalty factor the Tories continue to benefit from. With the exception of the 'Brown Bounce',10 years in, the then incumbent administration was around mid/low 30s and the opposition high 30's/low 40's, the mirror of where we are now.
ska invita
back on the other side
starmer playing the long game obvs, ready to pounce when the moment is right with a powerpoint presentation he's got his best people working on
fact is most voters think the tories are doing as best as could be hoped for over covid
will be interesting to see polling this time next year, once impact of covid and brexit on the economy becomes inescapable. i wouldnt really expect much of a change in polling, until at least a second wave hits at the soonest, but i think 2021 will be carnage
‘Red wall’ voters would make Keir Starmer PM if an election were held now
Boris Johnson would lose an election held today. Despite holding a steady four-point lead in recent polls, the Conservatives would lose around 70 seats. They would remain the largest party in parli…
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Supine
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brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Fair play.Your last two posts show some data analysis bias
Perhaps I really should read what I post!
They did pretty well at the last election tbfIf that trend keeps up the Tories will be wiped out in 20 weeks
I've let myself down by reading this thread though I vowed after all the last shitshows that I'd never pay attention to them again
Shechemite
Be the sun and all will see you
Keir starmers time is up
why do you keep doing this over margin of error noise?
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