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And the arch remainiacs show once again why they couldn't talk a anyone out of a burning car...

It's not fair, and I'm going to stamp and stamp my foot until you agree with me.

It's done, it's over. Move on to the next fight. The reason they didn't make any headway in 2017, 2018 and 2019 is because they were still in 2016.
 
Those sort of numbers fed into a prediction given a Tory majority of 150+ so it really won't matter at all what the other parties do, but that said the Polls are all over the shop these days. I don't think Labour can win an election but it's still possible for the Tories to lose.
 
The Tory poll is probably a bit of an outlier, but Labour’s ratings are shocking.

Labour’s strategies are not working, it’s running out of money and doesn’t dare go for an election. What to do?
 
The Tory poll is probably a bit of an outlier, but Labour’s ratings are shocking.

Labour’s strategies are not working, it’s running out of money and doesn’t dare go for an election. What to do?

Delay an election for long enough until the Arcuri crap catches up with Johnson and he’s barred from office, then see how they fare against whichever charmless marionette takes his place.
 
Delay an election for long enough until the Arcuri crap catches up with Johnson and he’s barred from office, then see how they fare against whichever charmless marionette takes his place.

Nice thought, but these things have a habit of getting delayed and frustrated by lawyering.
 
The Tory polling also doesn’t suggest that Brexit supporters are particularly bothered by the failure to hit the 31 October deadline or hold no deal as the only true Brexit. If that is the case, then the Brexit Party’s chances of holding the balance of power may be receding further.

If a weak Brexit or delayed Brexit isn’t going to dent Tory hopes, then Labour’s tactics on Brexit, while important for watering down the deal, don’t appear to be likely to help its electoral chances one way or another.
 
The Tory polling also doesn’t suggest that Brexit supporters are particularly bothered by the failure to hit the 31 October deadline or hold no deal as the only true Brexit. If that is the case, then the Brexit Party’s chances of holding the balance of power may be receding further.

If a weak Brexit or delayed Brexit isn’t going to dent Tory hopes, then Labour’s tactics on Brexit, while important for watering down the deal, don’t appear to be likely to help its electoral chances one way or another.
It may not have a significant effect on polling...but it's probably best to actually wait until the 1st week of November, when Johnson's failure will be obvious to even the most news averse punters, until writing it off as a factor.
If the incessant vox popping in 'Leavy' seats oop North is anything to go by (??) there also has to be some question mark over the strength of those pro-Brexit (vermin+Farageist) votes...so many folk responding that they'll 'never vote again', 'not bother voting', 'won't make any difference'. Makes me think that Johnson may not be as keen to actually go to the electorate as he makes out.
 
that would leave the BBC’s Brexit reporting a bit barren, at least 25% of which comprises vox pops with older white voters in places like Stoke or market towns in the sticks.

Why not though? That’s where at least 25% of the population lives.

And getting vox pops is not a science. It’s a matter of getting someone/anyone to speak as most people will not want to.
 
:D

Probs shouldn't have mentioned vox pops:oops:

That said, I've a gut feeling that that opportunity to adopt the "it's not worth voting anymore; they never do what we want" line will be a very attractive option for many folk who are naturally disengaged with party politics anyway.
Suppose I'm predicting that the recent 4 GE trend of gradually rising turnout figures will be bucked this time around?
 
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