Peaches Geldof is dead, age 25

[rutabowa]

I wish I'd known her dealer. She had the good shit

it definitely wasn't coming of T who hangs around on archway road in the internet cafe or whatever.

 

[twentythreedom]

it definitely wasn't coming of T who hangs around on archway road in the internet cafe or whatever.

Heh, definitely not. I know that guy, he's a cunt

 

[Blagsta]

She had a lot more than most. She had a lot more opportunity and money than most, but that doesn't make her death any less tragic though.

Just goes to show that money doesn't make up for crappy parenting.

 

[editor]

Just goes to show that money doesn't make up for crappy parenting.

Some people can get addicted regardless of how well they were brought up.

 

[Cheesypoof]

Just goes to show that money doesn't make up for crappy parenting.

Bob was hardly a crap parent, raising four daughters on his own ....it's not his fault his wife broke up his family, left him, and OD'd..

 

[D'wards]

I wonder if a parent dying of drugs means you are more likely or less likely to go the same way? You'd hope less likely, but i'm pretty sure its more likely - especially in the working classes.

 

[pinkmonkey]

I wonder if a parent dying of drugs means you are more likely or less likely to go the same way? You'd hope less likely, but i'm pretty sure its more likely - especially in the working classes.

I don't think class would come into it at all.

 

[8ball]

I don't think class would come into it at all.

I think having a bit of money might give you more avenues for getting away from it, but in her walk of life and the showbiz circle, together with being well knonwn, things might well have been harder.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

I think having a bit of money might give you more avenues for getting away from it, .

Double-edged. Having a bit of money also means less trouble financing it.

 

[8ball]

Double-edged. Having a bit of money also means less trouble financing it.

Yeah, fair point.

 

[pinkmonkey]

Double-edged. Having a bit of money also means less trouble financing it.

I know of more than one trust fund smackhead. The trust fund enables them to keep caning it whilst the parents keep chucking money at the problem, whilst not getting them the help they need.

 

[Blagsta]

Some people can get addicted regardless of how well they were brought up.

Chronic addiction is much more likely if their was abuse or neglect in childhood.

 

[Blagsta]

Bob was hardly a crap parent, raising four daughters on his own ....it's not his fault his wife broke up his family, left him, and OD'd..

"Crap parenting" was a hasty shorthand for a difficult childhood. Paula had her own mental health problems and her parenting of Peaches was likely chaotic with disrupted attachment.

 

[Blagsta]

I wonder if a parent dying of drugs means you are more likely or less likely to go the same way? You'd hope less likely, but i'm pretty sure its more likely - especially in the working classes.

Can make it more likely, but there are many contributing factors. If the family environment is one of drug use as a coping mechanism, then it may make it more likely.

 

[twentythreedom]

Some people can get addicted regardless of how well they were brought up.

Yes, they most certainly can

 

[Cheesypoof]

"Crap parenting" was a hasty shorthand for a difficult childhood. Paula had her own mental health problems and her parenting of Peaches was likely chaotic with disrupted attachment.

Paula was well regarded as a good mother by all accounts (including Bob himself), but she got into drugs after she met Hutchence....not blaming him either - its an individuals own choice, Peaches included. However, I would agree that her drug of choice was probably connected with the sense of loss without a mother.

 

[Orang Utan]

Yates and Geldof, not Paula and Bob!

 

[trashpony]

Peaches was constantly feted as a good mother in the media and look what a load of bollocks that turned out to be

 

[5t3IIa]

Paula was well regarded as a good mother by all accounts (including Bob himself), but she got into drugs after she met Hutchence....not blaming him either - its an individuals own choice, Peaches included. However, I would agree that her drug of choice was probably connected with the sense of loss without a mother.

This is terrible Daily Mail ish crap, cheesey. Come on.

 

[mystic pyjamas]

Hope that horrible old cow doesn't come on gloating saying "I told you so".
Don't even want to mention her name.
Put me off me tea.

 

[Cheesypoof]

This is terrible Daily Mail ish crap, cheesey. Come on.

not true, i base this on experience of growing up in Ireland, where Paula and Bob were well regarded. The media here isnt as savage as it is in the UK. Paula Yates talked constantly about child rearing when interviewed, even dressing her kids in the same clothes as herself. She also wrote a number of books on motherhood too, before it all went wrong. She was never vilified as a bad mother until after she broke up with Geldof.

 

[spanglechick]

not true, i base this on experience of growing up in Ireland, where Paula and Bob were well regarded. The media here isnt as savage as it is in the UK. Paula Yates talked constantly about child rearing when interviewed, even dressing her kids in the same clothes as herself. She also wrote a number of books on motherhood too, before it all went wrong. She was never vilified as a bad mother until after she broke up with Geldof.

Perhaps it depends in what you classify "being a good parent" as. I doubt many ppl would have "dressing like your kids" on the list.

 

[Cheesypoof]

Perhaps it depends in what you classify "being a good parent" as. I doubt many ppl would have "dressing like your kids" on the list.

thats hardly what i mean and you know that...

If people can remember The Tube, the show she hosted with Jools Holland, Paula Yates was a bubbly, intelligent, ascerbic interviewer - quite brilliant. And she had cultivated this 'earth mother' image with Geldof, and appeared to be a bit of a nutter, calling her kids odd names and getting married in a red wedding dress, but in a quirky, good way....she was an extremely popular media figure, and i recall people were surprised and saddened that such a sparky character broke up her family and shattered her 'earth mother' image. She did have this image before she met Hutchence - although maybe some judgmental Urbanites memories are clouded because they solely judge Paula Yates on her drug problems. Certainly looks like it...

 

[5t3IIa]

thats hardly what i mean and you know that...

If people can remember The Tube, the show she hosted with Jools Holland, Paula Yates was a bubbly, intelligent, ascerbic interviewer - quite brilliant. And she had cultivated this 'earth mother' image with Geldof, and appeared to be a bit of a nutter, calling her kids odd names and getting married in a red wedding dress, but in a quirky, good way....she was extremely popular, as i recall people were surprised and saddened that such a sparky character broke up her family and shattered her 'earth mother' image. She did have this image before she met Hutchence - although maybe some judgmental Urbanites memories are clouded because they solely Paula Yates on her drug problems. Certainly looks like it...

None of us knew her and it's the worst kind of bullshit tabloid speculation to pretend to know one single thing about how she lived her life based on The Tube and some toddler's garms.

 

[twentythreedom]

Michael Hutchence was a very bad man

 

[Idris2002]

Michael Hutchence was a very bad man

How, exactly?

 

[spanglechick]

thats hardly what i mean and you know that...

If people can remember The Tube, the show she hosted with Jools Holland, Paula Yates was a bubbly, intelligent, ascerbic interviewer - quite brilliant. And she had cultivated this 'earth mother' image with Geldof, and appeared to be a bit of a nutter, calling her kids odd names and getting married in a red wedding dress, but in a quirky, good way....she was an extremely popular media figure, and i recall people were surprised and saddened that such a sparky character broke up her family and shattered her 'earth mother' image. She did have this image before she met Hutchence - although maybe some judgmental Urbanites memories are clouded because they solely Paula Yates on her drug problems. Certainly looks like it...

I do know that and I admit to being flippant, but I did kind of have a point, which is that very few ppl are equipped to judge good parenting [edit- in any specific family], but that the label "good parent" is often awarded erroneously (children being taken into care for horrific abuse and neglect pretty often want to stay and react fiercely to any suggestion that their parent was less than loving). It is also a label appended to a great many tragic figures, including the dead. Lastly, loving your kids to bits is not the same as being a good parent. It's very sad but it's true.

 

[twentythreedom]

How, exactly?

He did bad things

"Not bad meaning bad but bad meaning good" etc or something obvs

He must have had a ginormous schlong

 

[Buckaroo]

He must have had a ginormous schlong

She described it as 'The Taj Mahal of crotches'

 

[twentythreedom]

She described it as 'The Taj Mahal of crotches'

He definitely put a smile on Kylie's face