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Pandemic personal consequences

Not sure this is consequences exactly, but maybe more relevant here than the general discussion thread.

Is anyone else finding it straining on friendships with people they know who aren't following the social distancing and essential trips out guidance? So many people are thinking their little numerous trips out are 'essential' and are actually mixing with loads of people not from their household. It's quite depressing and infuriating.
I think I am very fortunate - even some of my more "wild" friends here in the township, whom I might have expected to be messing around with the boundaries, seem to have taken the lockdown thing seriously and to heart, and are taking strict precautions. To the point that I sometimes feel as if I am the one being most casual about it (for example, being happy not to stock up on expensive antibacterial (!) sprays and KILLS GERMS type products in favour of strong detergent/soap solutions and a bit of patience.
 
My son is a trainee white goods engineer. One of his calls today is to fix a wine cooler. I think he’s going to cancel it.

I went to fix a washing machine yesterday. Not keen to do it but really need the money.

I warned in advance that I would need door unlocked and for them to step back and stay 2 meters away, plus nobody else in the room where I was working. Having said that, mid pandemic wine cooler repair indicates the people are selfish idiots who should be steered well clear of.
 
Not sure where would be the best place to ask this, not worthy of its own thread - but how long is post taking at the moment? My parents and my MIL both sent me birthday cards that haven't turned up yet, but I am getting a daily delivery of payday loan adverts in the post. Just wondered what sort of delays might be going on.

You're not wrong about the postal system going a bit haywire. I sent 3 standard letters all 1st class on Thursday 26th March. The first one arrived in Reading on 31st March. The second one has just arrived in Oxford today . At this rate the third one will arrive in Banbury by next weekend.

Yet at the same time official looking letters seem to be getting through as normal. I wonder if they are being prioritised over hand written, obviously personal stuff?
 
Not sure this is consequences exactly, but maybe more relevant here than the general discussion thread.

Is anyone else finding it straining on friendships with people they know who aren't following the social distancing and essential trips out guidance? So many people are thinking their little numerous trips out are 'essential' and are actually mixing with loads of people not from their household. It's quite depressing and infuriating.

Not really a strain because the relationship is already beyond that but I do marvel at my brother's twitter account. Bounces between tweeting the same picture of Cheltenham races and questioning how many are dead to claiming shutting the schools will be our 'evacuees moment' - by which he means we shouldn't have done it as its depriving his bright child of her piano lessons - and calling for the reopening of the garden centres as he loves gardening and people are apparently well known for social distancing in garden centres.

Selfish cretin springs to mind.

/dirtylaundarywashed
 
You're not wrong about the postal system going a bit haywire. I sent 3 standard letters all 1st class on Thursday 26th March. The first one arrived in Reading on 31st March. The second one has just arrived in Oxford today . At this rate the third one will arrive in Banbury by next weekend.

Yet at the same time official looking letters seem to be getting through as normal. I wonder if they are being prioritised over hand written, obviously personal stuff?


Depends on whether the letters are machine-readable or not. Hand written letters are more affected by staff shortages at MDEC in Plymouth and in the Mail Centres. The machines keep sorting ...
 
Depends on whether the letters are machine-readable or not. Hand written letters are more affected by staff shortages at MDEC in Plymouth and in the Mail Centres. The machines keep sorting ...

Or missing the postcode, or otherwise poorly addressed.

I once received a postcode from my mother holidaying in Spain, after about 3 weeks, addressed to:
Cupid Stunt [actually real name]
A cottage overlooking a river [actually a canal]
Near Taunton
England
- Fucks knows how it got to me. :D
 
Well in this case, all were addressed correctly and clearly written. I mean, they all had drugs in them so I had assumed the rob dog posties had recognised what was inside but apparently not. Just a slow service.
 
Am finding it a bit depressing with some friends on social media posting all manner of bollocks about how to fight the virus and where it came from.

"Your stomach acids will kill the virus", "the virus is spread by mobile phones" and so on. I mean, it takes a minute to check these things but no, the bullshit and misinformation is everywhere :(
 
Am finding it a bit depressing with some friends on social media posting all manner of bollocks about how to fight the virus and where it came from.

"Your stomach acids will kill the virus", "the virus is spread by mobile phones" and so on. I mean, it takes a minute to check these things but no, the bullshit and misinformation is everywhere :(

To be fair to them your stomach acids will kill the virus*; it's the application of the treatment that is problematical.

* This is the end point of the approximately pint of mucus per day produced by your respiratory tract and wafted glacier-like to your oesophagus to be swallowed - to trap and burn pathogens in your stomach acid.
 
To be fair to them your stomach acids will kill the virus*; it's the application of the treatment that is problematical.

* This is the end point of the approximately pint of mucus per day produced by your respiratory tract and wafted glacier-like to your oesophagus to be swallowed - to trap and burn pathogens in your stomach acid.

Some broader, more generalised implications of this formed part of my thinking when deciding that actually no, my symptoms were not severe enough to really justify the risks of spending a large chunk of my life taking protein pump inhibitors!
 
So I'm door-bitching in the shop today. Four on the floor, one-on-one-out.

So many people are, like,

-I only want one thing, I'll be really quick. (No. It's not about time it's about bodies)

-Can we come in together? (Only if you wait for two people to come out. Being a couple doesn't make you a single human body.)

-Why can't I bring my child in? (You can, if you wait for two people to come out. A child is still a human being who might be carrying the virus.)

And despite my taping off the floor around the counter and putting tape marks elsewhere to indicate 1.5 metres (not even the full exclusion zone) no-one is keeping their distance.

I'm going out to ask folks in the queue if they're wanting something in particular, in case it's something we don't have, to save them from waiting in vain (no flour of any kind, very few pulses). Most people are glad to find out but some feel that I'm prying or spying. It's hard to be helpful when everyone is fed up and on edge.

My hips hurt. I'll be glad to get home.
 
Yeah, only one friend, bit it's a 'what can we get away with?' type attitude.

There's some logic within it, in a 'X isn't materially different from Y, and that's allowed' way, and can see the logic of the point being made, but I'm uncomfortable with the attitude and being made to feel uncomfortable within the friendship by saying no to joining in.

This stuff isn't 'lets have a have party with 200 people' type thing, but it is (imv) needlessly pushing the lines.

I wouldn't be that surprised if it's a reflection of the introvert/extrovert thing - this person is someone who is very social, but who works from home in normal circumstances and who lives half a mile from anyone else: she's probably desperate for some social interaction, to the point where it's causing her real MH problems.

I'm a miserable bastard, so not speaking to people is fine with me - bit pissed off I can't go to north Wales for the weekend, but apart from that it's no struggle.

Yeah, it crosses a few different divisions I think, the introvert/extrovert one for sure is one. I've also seen a bit of middle class entitlement going on too though, the idea that they deserve to bend the rules a bit for their own 'important' errands or trips. On the other side there's a fair bit of lumpen prole stuff around my area where there's no sense of social solidarity or care for anyone outside their small social group, largely this seems to be among groups of young men who seem to be taking delight on racing their cars around the area even faster than usual.
 
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And they're still asking for iodine. I'd love to see the text or tweet that started this fad. Apparently iodine will protect us from the virus.

But not the kelp tablets that are a natural source of iodine. Because the tweet said "iodine" .

I love how people will strictly adhere to the advice they choose to believe, while openly flouting advice from other sources...
 
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So I'm door-bitching in the shop today. Four on the floor, one-on-one-out.

So many people are, like,

-I only want one thing, I'll be really quick. (No. It's not about time it's about bodies)

-Can we come in together? (Only if you wait for two people to come out. Being a couple doesn't make you a single human body.)

-Why can't I bring my child in? (You can, if you wait for two people to come out. A child is still a human being who might be carrying the virus.)

And despite my taping off the floor around the counter and putting tape marks elsewhere to indicate 1.5 metres (not even the full exclusion zone) no-one is keeping their distance.

I'm going out to ask folks in the queue if they're wanting something in particular, in case it's something we don't have, to save them from waiting in vain (no flour of any kind, very few pulses). Most people are glad to find out but some feel that I'm prying or spying. It's hard to be helpful when everyone is fed up and on edge.

My hips hurt. I'll be glad to get home.

I actually lost my mind over the number of people in the shop today, including groups of lads, mothers will older teenagers, couples and families with young babies. And why can’t people follow arrows??? It’s. Not. Difficult. I ended up in the grocery warehouse having a rant and a cry. I just don’t feel that we’re being kept safe.
 
I actually lost my mind over the number of people in the shop today, including groups of lads, mothers will older teenagers, couples and families with young babies. And why can’t people follow arrows??? It’s. Not. Difficult. I ended up in the grocery warehouse having a rant and a cry. I just don’t feel that we’re being kept safe.

I totally get you moomoo


And so many people are behaving and reacting as if I'm being weird and they're reluctantly indulging my whacky request.
 
I actually lost my mind over the number of people in the shop today, including groups of lads, mothers will older teenagers, couples and families with young babies. And why can’t people follow arrows??? It’s. Not. Difficult. I ended up in the grocery warehouse having a rant and a cry. I just don’t feel that we’re being kept safe.

Yeah, saw a fair bit of that yesterday when I had to go to the supermarket. Still so many people treating it as a family outing. Saw a young couple with their pram looking happy as larry the day after the news was full of how a young kid had just died of it in London. Its hard to fathom the thought process sometimes.
 
And they're still asking for iodine. I'd love to see the text it tweet that started this fad. Apparently iodine will protect us from the virus.

But not the kelp tablets that are a natural source of iodine. Because the tweet said "iodine" .

I love how people will strictly adhere to the advice they choose to believe, while openly flouting advice from other sources...
Amazing that this sort of shit goes around when the thing we know definitely kills the virus is... soap. Just normal soap and water. Not artisan soap or soap made from pulverised moon dust and unicorn tears, any old soap.
 
A friend of mine in Belgium has almost certainly got it btw. She sounds relatively well though. They are apparently triaging people to check lung function and oxygen levels but not testing routinely there either.
 
I actually lost my mind over the number of people in the shop today, including groups of lads, mothers will older teenagers, couples and families with young babies. And why can’t people follow arrows??? It’s. Not. Difficult. I ended up in the grocery warehouse having a rant and a cry. I just don’t feel that we’re being kept safe.

IIRC you work for Tesco, is it a big or small store?

Only around here there's extra security at the big Tesco, I assume 'door-safe' staff re-deployed from pubs & clubs, but we even have staff outside the small outlets, limiting people going in, basically one out, one in.

Even the local Co-op is doing that too.
 
IIRC you work for Tesco, is it a big or small store?

Only around here there's extra security at the big Tesco, I assume 'door-safe' staff re-deployed from pubs & clubs, but we even have staff outside the small outlets, limiting people going in, basically one out, one in.

Even the local Co-op is doing that too.

It’s a big store and we’ve also got extra security from the local pubs and clubs but they’re not stopping people coming in. Our store manager has even said we aren’t going to enforce the rule, just ‘advise’ people. It’s utterly ridiculous.
 
It’s a big store and we’ve also got extra security from the local pubs and clubs but they’re not stopping people coming in. Our store manager has even said we aren’t going to enforce the rule, just ‘advise’ people. It’s utterly ridiculous.

That's nuts, WTF is the extra security for, if not to enforce the rules?

It's working well here, sounds like your store manager is a complete twat TBH. :mad:
 
Still not got hold of UC. Tried at bang on 8 every morning this week and loads throughout day, it's either engaged straight away or engaged tone after I've picked a few options. Left a journal entry on wednesday saying I couldn't get through, I don't mind holding but I can't even get to hold, got a reply today which just said they were really busy but didn't say they'd call me at some point or offer any other solution.

Feel bad for the people working on UC obviously but I'm also really fucking worried for me and mine and would be quite nice to know I've at least got a claim logged
 
third week of working from home has come to an end, haven't spoken face to face to anyone (other than members of the household) in a fortnight now. I am jealously guarding my daily walk, people around here are pretty good at social distancing, it's the accepted convention that if you encounter someone then one of you crosses the road.
I've seen the bus every night for the past 4 or 5 days and it has been empty everytime.
Things are bit tense in the Q household at the moment now that medics have started dying, With one daughter and son's g/f being nurses it's not doing a great deal for Mrs Q's peace of mind. I keep telling her that they're both in their 20's and in excellent health but she just accuses me of not helping.
Neighbours were clapping away last night and though she's normally a very mild mannered girl, son's g/f pointed out that the only reason she and my son will be able to buy a house is because he doesn't work in the NHS and earns more money than she does.
 
third week of working from home has come to an end, haven't spoken face to face to anyone (other than members of the household) in a fortnight now. I am jealously guarding my daily walk, people around here are pretty good at social distancing, it's the accepted convention that if you encounter someone then one of you crosses the road.
I've seen the bus every night for the past 4 or 5 days and it has been empty everytime.
Things are bit tense in the Q household at the moment now that medics have started dying, With one daughter and son's g/f being nurses it's not doing a great deal for Mrs Q's peace of mind. I keep telling her that they're both in their 20's and in excellent health but she just accuses me of not helping.
Neighbours were clapping away last night and though she's normally a very mild mannered girl, son's g/f pointed out that the only reason she and my son will be able to buy a house is because he doesn't work in the NHS and earns more money than she does.

The bit where you try to comfort your Missus with logic and facts and she says it ain’t helping: if she’s anything like me, it’s like this : it really annoys me when I’m trying to express and process my fear/sadness etc with someone who I consider to be as close as close as can be and they do the mitigations. I’m perfectly aware of the argument and rationale to the contrary, thanks, but I’m really struggling with this other stuff, this limbic brain stuff, this gut stuff, the stuff that floods up into my heart and grips it like a fist. What I really need, please, is someone who is in here with me, in the pit, someone who can understand how I feel and say so. I really want an ally, a companion. I want to hear stuff like “I get it, I’m worried too, we can do this, I got your back, you’re not alone. It’s shit, innit, you go ahead and cry if it helps, I’ll hold you while you do and offer you a cuppa afterwards.” I don’t want you to tell me about your fears, well not just at this moment but I’ll hear and hear hold them for you, if you want want me to do that, when it’s your turn.

Feeling my emotions is part of processing them. Mitigating them feels like pushing them away. If I have to deal with them on my own then I feel like you’re not shoulder to shoulder with me. I can do that, but if we’re a couple, then we shouldn’t have to do shit like this alone.

If you keep giving me rational reasons to counter my feelings, thst feels like you’re minimising my feelings and telling me they’re misplaced or wrongheaded. I get why you’re doing it, you’re trying to help, to deflect my anxiety or give me an alternative way of thinking. Maybe that’s what you need when you’re dealing with this kind of stuff, but I need something different.





Sorry, I seem to have gone off on one there...




And so many people are behaving and reacting as if I'm being weird and they're reluctantly indulging my whacky request.


Further to which...

So at 5 minutes to closing time I was micromanaging the queue, and the door, shutting off the queue and trying to deal with the frustration of those who weren't going to be able to shop while also letting people in etc.

Two men wanted to come in together. I explained that two people, even if they are friends, is still two separate people and we’re only letting 4 in at a time . So one came in and the other stayed outside. The one inside didn't know what to buy so the one outside was shouting through the door. Then he started shouting directly at me, telling me what he wanted to buy (why didn't he come in while his friend stayed outside :confused: )

So I opened the door a crack, to stop him shouting. So he put his mouth to the gap and kept on shouting, with his face about 6inches from mine. So I shut the door. So then his mate told me I was disrespectful, this is a shop, I'm supposed to be serving people, I'm out of order. I tried to explain “it’s nearly closing time, it’s been a long day, our policy is..., your friend in shouting very close to my face, it’s making me feel anxious... “ Yeah, so they both fucked off, withdrew their custom. If I get this virus I’ll know who gave it to me.




ETA

MickiQ
The clapping thing...

I heard it and didn’t join in last night. It felt a bit hollow when we can’t even given them proper protection.
 
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