rubbershoes
not the only raver in the village
Is she aware of the eradication of smallpox, and the eradication in most countries of polio? Both achieved through vaccination programmes.
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Is she aware of the eradication of smallpox, and the eradication in most countries of polio? Both achieved through vaccination programmes.
lazythursday
Averagely-Known Member
Yes she is quite aware. It's maddening. I think it's a mixture of stubborn self belief in her own health, a dash of fatalism ('if it's my time to go then fine') and a general mistrust of chemicals / drugs / artificial substances. The only thing that will make her have it is if she is prevented from going on her coach holidays.
izz
Increased Leisure Citizen
I pretty much hated 'normal' as well, lockdown has been great for me in some ways. I don't know if this is any comfort but some organisations don't plan on becoming fully normal again at all.
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
First jab done. So now I can stay at home and never go out anywhere with a bit more safety 
Artaxerxes
Look out, he's got a gnu!
Boudicca
Seaside Queen
My Syrian friend wants come and stay for a few days from May 11th, I have told him it is against the rules at the moment, but he doesn't seem to want to understand.
I've just checked the lockdown lifting rules and there is nothing about overnight stays for friends and families, just that hotels can open from 17th and something about guidance on hugging tbc.
If I lived on my own, I would let him come, but I have lodgers and it could all go to pot very quickly if I break the rules.
I've just checked the lockdown lifting rules and there is nothing about overnight stays for friends and families, just that hotels can open from 17th and something about guidance on hugging tbc.
If I lived on my own, I would let him come, but I have lodgers and it could all go to pot very quickly if I break the rules.
Boudicca
Seaside Queen
Yes, I know. Although could I revive my Airbnb listing and book him in from 17th?
Monkeygrinder's Organ
Dodgy geezer swilling vapid lager
Yes, I know. Although could I revive my Airbnb listing and book him in from 17th?
I think you're allowed to stay with friends and family from the 17th, you don't need the AirBnB angle AFAIK.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
Ooh really? Can we touch each other?
rubbershoes
not the only raver in the village
Our August holiday has been cancelled. We booked in January fully aware that it may not happen.
Apparently Swissair cancelled the flight in February but we only found out today
Apparently Swissair cancelled the flight in February but we only found out today
miss direct
misfungled
I had a crazy idea that I would go to Turkey later this month, as all my personal possessions are still there and I have banking to sort out. I also really miss my friends. But it's now on the red list, so won't be happening.
Cloo
Banana for scale
So we're now in an interesting situation with daughter's bat mitzvah. Synagogue has said they will be easing up on restrictions after 21st June (5 days before) if things go to plan - so we may be able to have more guests, but we don't know how many, and we don't know when we'll know how many. And the service will be more like usual (currently it's much shortened) but we don't know how long, so I'm not sure what we tell our garden party caterers re: start time. It would be lovely to have the BM in the first near 'normal' service if that happens, but it's also somewhat confusing! I guess, whatever the gov says we will have a good idea which way things are going by about a fortnight beforehand - presumably unless there is a worrying surge by then, things will proceed as planned with reopening.
scifisam
feck! arse! girls! drink!
Does he want to stay on those specific dates because he's going to be between homes? I'd have thought that'd be an exception if so - I mean, he'd have to stay somewhere.
Boudicca
Seaside Queen
No, just a holiday, he stayed with me for a couple of months through Refugees at Home but lives in Stockton now. A couple of people here clarified that it was 'legal' after 17th, so I told him he had to wait unti then. Except that there won't be a room for him because it looks as though another friend who is marooned in Jamaica might make it back here on 18th. So sofabed in the sewing room only.
Boudicca
Seaside Queen
I'm feeling very creaky so I booked mysefl into a 'Wellness Centre' for a six week course of massage and chiropractic treatments.
When I got there, the two receptionists were huddled together behind the counter without masks. Fair enough I thought, there is a small screen at one end of the counter. In the corridor behind them, three staff were having a conversation and only one was wearing a mask. Then my 'doctor' ushered me into her room, pointed to a chair for me and then sat down about 1 metre away from me and started talking. Again with no mask.
I said that I was not comfortable and she looked very shocked and offered to put the mask on. I said it was too late for that and left.
When I got there, the two receptionists were huddled together behind the counter without masks. Fair enough I thought, there is a small screen at one end of the counter. In the corridor behind them, three staff were having a conversation and only one was wearing a mask. Then my 'doctor' ushered me into her room, pointed to a chair for me and then sat down about 1 metre away from me and started talking. Again with no mask.
I said that I was not comfortable and she looked very shocked and offered to put the mask on. I said it was too late for that and left.
BigMoaner
What A Load of Old Bollocks
Mate I've had a mare with restaurants and pubs. Try and book. Had two weekends of not being able to get a table.
LDC
On est tous des pangolins
Thanks! Friend booked us somewhere tomorrow night, going to just grab something to take out this evening and walk along the canal maybe.
I managed to sit through most of yesterday's downing street briefing. The couple of questions from journalists who weren't dribbling on about hugging and hand holding did try and get some info on what happens come the June date. Johnson wouldn't be drawn on it but did say we will be hearing a lot more over the coming weeks.
They really need to get their shit together on that because there will be people making plans based upon no restrictions. I know of people who having wedding invites to 80 people plus weddings for late June / early July. If they are going to phase it people need to know early.
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
They've already said it depends on data over 3 weeks, another week looking at it, then a week's notice of changes, no ones knows what the impact is going to be from next week's lifting of restrictions, so they can't promise anything further ATM.
Also, in respect of the likes of weddings, nightclubs, etc., they will be subject to the results of the scientific Events Research Programme, there's no guarantees about what other restrictions will be lifted until the week before the 21st June, so anyone sending out invites to 80 people for a wedding are taking a risk TBH.
Cloo
Banana for scale
Indeed - we're lucky in that our party 'venue' is my inlaws garden and our basic plan was a core invite of 30 that we should be able to have as a minimum. Our catering is a fish & chip van, and their starting price was for up to 60 people, which gives us a ceiling, so hopefully we can take another 30 people - I have added a note to those people's invites saying 'Really hope you can join us but it will depend on rules at the time'. I can just about cope with 30 or 60, but I wouldn't want to be dealing with 30 or, I dunno, 120.
As it is we're not actually inviting our closest mates partly because gsv's mates are so interlinked that you can't invite one lot without inviting everyone else, so outside of family and Esme's friends, we're sticking to friends from synagogue as they're the people it will be most meaningful to.
Our neighbours are having a belated party for daughter's BM (which was in March and was able to happen just after the synagogue reopened) on Monday 21st, which we're invited to!
It was quite difficult to book stuff like gazebos and some staff to pour drinks because of course, everyone wants to have parties that weekend to make up for lost time - but this BM date was booked over a year ago so it really is the weekend we had to have the party!
I guess by a fortnight before we'll know which way the wind is blowing as they'll have had 4 weeks and will be able to see if there are any alarming rises.
As it is we're not actually inviting our closest mates partly because gsv's mates are so interlinked that you can't invite one lot without inviting everyone else, so outside of family and Esme's friends, we're sticking to friends from synagogue as they're the people it will be most meaningful to.
Our neighbours are having a belated party for daughter's BM (which was in March and was able to happen just after the synagogue reopened) on Monday 21st, which we're invited to!
It was quite difficult to book stuff like gazebos and some staff to pour drinks because of course, everyone wants to have parties that weekend to make up for lost time - but this BM date was booked over a year ago so it really is the weekend we had to have the party!
I guess by a fortnight before we'll know which way the wind is blowing as they'll have had 4 weeks and will be able to see if there are any alarming rises.
Well, yes and no. You're talking about whether it will be safe to move to the next phase. I was talking about what the next phase looks like should it be deemed safe. With all the previous landmark dates we've had a clear and pre-set idea of what will be allowed should it be deemed safe to do so. All we have now is what Johnson said back in February which was basically largely back to normal.
Anyone wishing to plan an event which include numbers of people will want to know what restrictions apply. I think most people will understand if its not safe but want to know what is considered safe. If I had a big wedding planned for the end of June (as some do) I'd want to know now if safe means no more than 60 people or whatever.
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
The actual wording is 'the government hopes to be in a position to remove all legal limits on social contact', so that is what they hope will be how 'the next phase looks like should it be deemed safe', but as with all stages it's subject to the data, and for this stage the outcome of the Events Research Programme, which is ongoing and hasn't reported yet, so it's too early for them to say if there will be any restrictions, but they hope not.
Cloo
Banana for scale
We nonetheless have a Zoom celebration the weekend before a) to include gsv's family abroad and any friends who are interested and b) honestly, just in case somehow everything's gone to shit in the meantime we have something.
I do wonder if streaming events will continue post covid as a way to include family and friends abroad without people having to travel.
I do wonder if streaming events will continue post covid as a way to include family and friends abroad without people having to travel.
I bet it will, for a lot of reasons. So many people have family and friends who are far away, too skint, not well enough, too busy or who just can't justify using taking time off work for X when they have other family/personal demands on their holiday time.
Cloo
Banana for scale
Effectively we're going to use our zoom so Ez has a practice run of her readings and we can do speeches, as the party will probably be more casual than that. But it will be nice to include gsv's family from abroad, and hopefully my aunt in Slovakia
Yeah, wouldn't be surprised if we do one for son's bar mitzvah in 3 years' time anyway, especially if this one goes well.
Yeah, wouldn't be surprised if we do one for son's bar mitzvah in 3 years' time anyway, especially if this one goes well.
crossthebreeze
Well-Known Member
My girlfriend has to have a pcr test as last week she had a meal at a bar where a member of staff has tested positive for the Indian Covid variant. She - and the friends she'd been with - found out because I follow the local paper on Facebook, not because of the NHS Covid app or Test & Trace, despite her and her friends all signing in on the app and the table booking being made with her name and phone number.
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