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Oxford Circus station bombed on Christmas day (graffiti)

Reno said:
Art is a matter of taste and street art is an art form. Never been much of a fan of impressionism myself. Horses/courses.
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You would of course be happy for someone to apply their “art” to your car? Your front door?

Or is it only edgy art when done to other people’s things?

Fuck these cunts.
 
beesonthewhatnow said:
You would of course be happy for someone to apply their “art” to your car? Your front door?
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I used to live in a converted block of flats where the gas meters were outside and the only way I could remember which one was mine was by the penis that had been drawn on it by a local community artist. So I can honestly say in the only instance where my house has been graffitied it was a net benefit to me.
 
I've just tried to find my old gas meter on Google Maps and Google have actually blurred the gas meters so the penis is no longer visible. You can still just about see it from a sharp angle if you know what you're looking at. Who the fuck gets graffiti penises blurred from Google maps? Is there someone whose job it is to go round Streetview looking for willies or did someone write in and complain?
 
beesonthewhatnow said:
Last time I checked nobody forced you to visit a gallery in order to admire a Monet.
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<insert joke about school/parents here> ;)

It's a reasonable point, though. But that's the trouble with all public art, and spaces in general; there's always going to be someone who doesn't like what you've done.

For context, I quite like a lot of graffiti, but can understand the issues many have with it and certainly have my own "well, I don't like that they've put that work there" moments.
 
my favourite graffiti ever is "neil young is a poser from teds" written in bilston, opposite majors chippy. i remember seeing it when i was ten or eleven and i still wonder today what it means and who wrote it forty years later.
its still there now. its at the beginning of this video.

 
beesonthewhatnow said:
You would of course be happy for someone to apply their “art” to your car? Your front door?

Or is it only edgy art when done to other people’s things?

Fuck these cunts.
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The Berlin postwar apartment building I live in is so dull and ugly that I'd be delighted if someone were to spruce it up with some well applied street art. I don't own a car and never seen one that's been graffiti-ed here, so that doesn't seem to be a thing. Our radicals tend to burn them down rather than graffiti them (and no, I don't approve of that)

Over the last 50 years Berlin has been a city for street and club culture and various counter culture movements, graffiti is part of its aesthetic. Better never come here if you don't like that.
 
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editor said:
Whilst some trains can look great with some well applied artwork, cunts that graf over the windows of overground trains can fuck right off.
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Yup. What station am I at? Fuck knows. In Rome you could have to go down
discokermit said:
i love shit graffiti. the shitter the better. makes me smile.

true to urban form, most posters on this thread have subconsciously done their little "could this affect the price of my house?" sums before posting.
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I think you've also done the "anyone who disagrees with my point of view must be a homeowner" sums and failed.
 
For all we know "Covid lies" might just be a handy way to condense into two words everything that had come out of Hancock's mouth this year.
 
maomao said:
I've just tried to find my old gas meter on Google Maps and Google have actually blurred the gas meters so the penis is no longer visible. You can still just about see it from a sharp angle if you know what you're looking at. Who the fuck gets graffiti penises blurred from Google maps? Is there someone whose job it is to go round Streetview looking for willies or did someone write in and complain?
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copyright takedown I expect
 
keybored said:
For all we know "Covid lies" might just be a handy way to condense into two words everything that had come out of Hancock's mouth this year.
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It could be. But it's almost certainly not. It's just conspiracy stupidity and anyone who slops that shit around via any medium or format is a fucking shithead because it can result in serious medical conditions for the gullible/vulnerable.
 
Gromit said:
They don’t.

You think sacking workers is a good thing?
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No, you dumbkopf, I was being sarcastic.

I know just how little money TfL has received in the past 10 months.

and any sacking of front-line workers to balance the books is a cunt's trick by (mis-)management.
 
I think what makes me more tolerant of this kind of behaviour is the "harrumphing" it inevitably elicits from a Certain Tendency. Graffitiing is a sign, a symptom of something going on in the society. You can harrumph and grump all you like about how it's just "not like it were when I were a kid"...and in doing so, you'll completely miss the point. Both points. Because it was like that, you were just fortunate enough not to see/notice, and it is a sign that someone is pissed off with their position in society. Which usually ends up meaning that there's something wrong with society, not necessarily with the people doing the protest/graffiti/etc.

And, all too often, the reason that this is the case, is because we're listening a bit too hard to the harrumphers, and not nearly hard enough to what the people on the streets are saying, via whatever means.
 
Am I the only one who finds it really fucking weird and bootlicker-y that some objections to graffiti try to equate public/corporate property with personal possessions? Of course I'd be pissed if someone did that to my things. Because they're my things. But I don't live in train stations, I use them to get to places. Not a single piece of graffiti I have ever encountered has been an obstacle to that function. I also don't personally identify with public bodies or corporations, which is another reason why such equivocations as "what if they did it to your house/car?" really don't work.
 
NoXion said:
Am I the only one who finds it really fucking weird and bootlicker-y that some objections to graffiti try to equate public/corporate property with personal possessions? Of course I'd be pissed if someone did that to my things. Because they're my things. But I don't live in train stations, I use them to get to places. Not a single piece of graffiti I have ever encountered has been an obstacle to that function. I also don't personally identify with public bodies or corporations, which is another reason why such equivocations as "what if they did it to your house/car?" really don't work.
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It shows you value your private property more highly than the property and environment you share with others, and that you assume everyone else feels the same way about stuff that you do - typical Thatcher generation. You probably chuck litter on the pavement too.
If you have a car, you don't live in it, you use it to get places. If I spray "teuchter off of urban75" all over it (including the inside) is that an "obstacle" to the function of driving to the supermarket?
 
This from earlier in the year was sublime:
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NoXion said:
Am I the only one who finds it really fucking weird and bootlicker-y that some objections to graffiti try to equate public/corporate property with personal possessions? Of course I'd be pissed if someone did that to my things. Because they're my things. But I don't live in train stations, I use them to get to places.
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Wow. Thatcher's work is done.
 
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