Oxford Circus station bombed on Christmas day (graffiti)

[FridgeMagnet]

With basically spending my whole life in one area in a kind of timeless void nowadays, I've come to appreciate even shit tagging tbh. It seems to be about the only way anything is different day to day. Though there was a new proper one that went up recently here:

 

[Clair De Lune]

did they paint your TV, clothes and possessions?

Yeah you should see gromit these days. He looks rad

 

[klang]

With basically spending my whole life in one area in a kind of timeless void nowadays, I've come to appreciate even shit tagging tbh. It seems to be about the only way anything is different day to day. Though there was a new proper one that went up recently here:

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I know exactly where this is and when it went up

 

[Boris Sprinkler]

I love street art. It lets you find out the vibe of the place. Seeing Antifa tags or Circle A's you know the place has a good vibe about it. I would have felt totally heartened seeing the graff in the OP. Dont understand the reticence towards it. Unless certain posters are Tube stations.

 

[scifisam]

Fair enough. Each to their own n that. I don't equate order with feeling safe personally, I think its an illusion. I feel safer knowing there are misfits, creatives and outsiders leaving their mark and showing us they exist. Also I think its rarely done as a mark of disrespect for an area. Its more like claiming the area as their own and saying 'I live here too'

I don't think any of the people graffing my flat lived in my flat. I mean, I'd have noticed.

There are many walls that were blank and concrete near me that I quite like seeing graffiti on, but not when it's clearly someone's home. That always feels a bit wrong. Like pissing up a wall to mark your territory, innit - and then doing it where someone sleeps at night.

The tube is different obvs but it genuinely is so nice to go to work in something relatively clean and be able to zone out and just travel from a to b rather than be part of someone's "art".

Plus some of that graffiti covers the windows, some of it covers the sign to the station, and some of it makes it more difficult to see the safety markings on the platform - they can get away with that because they know some low-paid worker will have to scrub it off. That's not freedom of expression, that's just fuck you, world. Which, TBF, I would sympathise with way more if they weren't writing about covid being a lie.

 

[JuanTwoThree]

I'm not seeing much difference between official public art and the guerrilla stuff. Some fucker (either a councillor on the committee that decides about statues and stuff or some graffitist) decides that they know what I should see when I'm out and about.

 

[tufty79]

there is that.
not the fault of the can though.

The only thing that stops a bad man with a can is a good man with a can

 

[scifisam]

I love street art. It lets you find out the vibe of the place. Seeing Antifa tags or Circle A's you know the place has a good vibe about it. I would have felt totally heartened seeing the graff in the OP. Dont understand the reticence towards it. Unless certain posters are Tube stations.

Yeah right. You go to view a council flat in London, you choose the one that has the most graffiti.

 

[cyril_smear]

No spunking cock and balls graffiti?

 

[TopCat]

People in TfL are really pissed off about this.

 

[danski]

Who knows, maybe they were expressing their annoyance at the lies about covid not existing when they know it does

 

[maomao]

Who knows, maybe they were expressing their annoyance at the lies about covid not existing when they know it does

There are plenty of lies about covid.

 

[maomao]

People in TfL are really pissed off about this.

Do they have any opinions on the route taken to get there?

 

[TopCat]

Do they have any opinions on the route taken to get there?

They know the route in. I cant say more.

 

[TopCat]

The station supervisor was in tears.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Who knows, maybe they were expressing their annoyance at the lies about covid not existing when they know it does

Pissed off with Trump, Icke and Corbyn.

 

[bellaozzydog]

I like graffiti, even shit graffiti tbh. In the same way I appreciate a kids drawing is still art and how you see they've enjoyed expressing themselves. But graffiti is different in that its breaking the rules. It heartens me to see people breaking the rules, staying up late and going on a mission with a gang of mates like that. I don't think it does hurt anyone. When I see it I feel the buzz of excitement they must have had rushing to finish it before being caught. I'd hate to live in a world of moaning +50year olds where nobody ever daubed a cock on a wall. Imagine that...everyone being so docile and rule following that nothing ever changed. *shudder.

this^^

 

[Reno]

I get all the arguments about vandalism and the cost of cleaning up. That Oxford Circus one is an ugly mess but when I see a beautifully graffitied train pull into a station, I can't help but wanting to applaud. In Berlin the standards are often quite high.

 

[clicker]

London has already got a lot of cracking street art. Authorised and un. Maybe that's why this looks so shit.

Really struggling to see the vibey/happening/out there aspect of pissing (badly) over a tube station. TFL don't need the headache right now. People who have to use that station daily, especially now, are not having an enhanced public transport moment.

 

[Yossarian]

The vandals may have done TfL a favour if it's helped them identify a security hole big enough to allow intruders to spend hours undisturbed in one of the busiest Tube stations in a city often targeted by terrorists.

 

[cyril_smear]

It’s certainly better than the shit you see round these parts. “Favela” spray painted on every other street... it’s not even a good tag.

 

[editor]

I get all the arguments about vandalism and the cost of cleaning up. That Oxford Circus one is an ugly mess but when I see a beautifully graffitied train pull into a station, I can't help but wanting to applaud. In Berlin the standards are often quite high.

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Whilst some trains can look great with some well applied artwork, cunts that graf over the windows of overground trains can fuck right off.

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

I get all the arguments about vandalism and the cost of cleaning up. That Oxford Circus one is an ugly mess but when I see a beautifully graffitied train pull into a station, I can't help but wanting to applaud. In Berlin the standards are often quite high.

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That looks fucking awful.

 

[Reno]

That looks fucking awful.

Art is a matter of taste and street art is an art form. Never been much of a fan of impressionism myself. Horses/courses.

 

[Reno]

Whilst some trains can look great with some well applied artwork, cunts that graf over the windows of overground trains can fuck right off.

That's why there is plastic foil of the Brandenburg Gate on the window of every underground train in Berlin.

 

[teuchter]

Why do graffiti artists nearly always do their work on communally owned stuff? It's like they recognise that, say, decorating someone's private house or car might not be welcome. That however good they think their art is, it's not on to impose it on someone else. But it's different for stuff that we communally own or use. There will be people who like seeing it on tube trains and there will be people who don't. The people who don't aren't all "the man".

Always seems a bit odd that it's accepted as some kind of counter-cultural activity, a fight back against the corporate machine or whatever. When it's really quite a self-centred egotistical imposition on things that form the parts of our environment that are shared. It often seems to be defended by those who otherwise emphasise the value of communally used stuff and the importance of making it open and available to all.

Would it be ok to graffiti the inside of an NHS hospital? If not why doesn't the same apply to public transport? Does it say something about how those who use public transport are regarded?

A fly-tipper might have the excuse that they can't afford the cost of disposing of stuff in the proper way... the person with the spray can doesn’t.

 

[Sasaferrato]

the problem with Art proper is it is all done by rich middle class men with all the time in the world. P.S Kroyer - the portrait of the artist his wife and his dog. How fucking long did that take, to be in the painting and paint the painting?

To get in and out of banned places (its a tube station, not Scafell Pike) and expressing yourself, is far more impressive than sitting around like a cunt for 15 years with your muses.

Graffiti shows we are not just in a matrix. That its possible to think outside the confines of what is and isnt allowed. Its been going on for years. Far longer than fucking advertising which we have no say whether or not we are exposed to it.

I have huge respect for graffiti artists. They make cities come alive.

Graffiti 'artists' remind me that man is the only animal that shits in its own nest.

 

[Clair De Lune]

Graffiti 'artists' remind me that man is the only animal that shits in its own nest.

Ah yes...cos Tories only shit in other peoples nests right

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

Art is a matter of taste and street art is an art form. Never been much of a fan of impressionism myself. Horses/courses.

Last time I checked nobody forced you to visit a gallery in order to admire a Monet.

 

[Sasaferrato]

Ah yes...cos Tories only shit in other peoples nests right

Go to hell.