Olympics 2024 - General Discussion

[Lord Camomile]

Have often had friends say climbing has a really supportive, collaborative culture, too.

Again, honestly don't know how far that transfers from amateur to pro/conpetition, once gold and glory are on the table, but certainly would be nice if it has.

Speaking very broadly, it does feel like successive generations have adopted a more supportive approach in a lot of fields, including many sports.

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

Holy crap that NL track sprint team is insane.

 

[Sue]

And also the gymnasts were similarly congratulating each other

It’s as if folk who spend a lot of time together doing crazy shit can start to develop friendships, who knew

FTFY.

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

May have been screaming at the telly there. Chance to go for gold in the men’s TP. Utterly stunning ride.

 

[Elpenor]

Just the one medal so far today for team GB, but still maintaining the medal every day streak

 

[Petcha]

Do the Germans have a player there called 'Minge'?

Soz. My 14yo juvenile self is kicking in there.

 

[T & P]

I know there are arguments for and against for either variant, but I wonder how the medals table would look after every Olympics if instead of counting gold medals as the overriding factor, they gave countries three points for every gold medal, two for silver, and one for bronze.

Unlikely it would make a drastic difference very often for the top countries, but I reckon it change the landscape quite dramatically at the lower end.

 

[Petcha]

I know there are arguments for and against for either variant, but I wonder how the medals table would look after every Olympics if instead of counting gold medals as the overriding factor, they gave countries three points for every gold medal, two for silver, and one for bronze.

Unlikely it would make a drastic difference very often for the top countries, but I reckon it change the landscape quite dramatically at the lower end.

The American networks do it like that I think

It makes perfect sense.

 

[Petcha]

Yes, looks like they do

USA bids adieu to Paris Olympics with most total medals, matched by China with 40 golds

Just as it was a few years ago at the Tokyo Olympics, it took until the final few medal events to decide who — China or the United States — would leave the Games with the most gold medals.

www.nbcolympics.com

edit, oh wait, they're just doing that on total number of medals i think

 

[T & P]

The American networks do it like that I think

It makes perfect sense.

Interesting. I thought the ‘number of golds first’ counting method the BBC and UK newspapers use was the accepted and official measuring stick.

And frankly, I think we should get rid of it altogether. One thing is recording which country won gold a given event at a given Olympics, but trying to establish which country ‘won the Olympics’ seems not just crass but against the very spirit of the Games.

 

[Elpenor]

Interesting. I thought the ‘number of golds first’ counting method the BBC and UK newspapers use was the accepted and official measuring stick.

And frankly, I think we should get rid of it altogether. One thing is recording which country won gold a given event at a given Olympics, but trying to establish which country ‘won the Olympics’ seems not just crass but against the very spirit of the Games.

Mate who lived in China told me they used whichever version had them at top of the table. Must admit he’s a bit of a bullshitter so may be bollocks

 

[Lord Camomile]

Mate who lived in China told me they used whichever version had them at top of the table. Must admit he’s a bit of a bullshitter so may be bollocks

Pretty sure that accusation has been levelled at both China and the US at various games, often with at least some evidence of such.

 

[Aladdin]

Yay!!! KELLIE HARRINGTON GETS GOLD!!!!!

 

[bcuster]

Another medal for the Republic of Notre Dame

Notre Dame's Yared Nuguse turns it loose in 1,500-meter run for Olympic bronze in Paris

Nuguse ran for Notre Dame from 2017-2021, winning multiple NCAA titles. Paris marked his Olympic debut in the 1,500-meter final.

www.indystar.com

 

[Elpenor]

Pretty sure that accusation has been levelled at both China and the US at various games, often with at least some evidence of such.

Wonder if different medal counting methods are used by different broadcasters

Think BBC has always used the most golds as the ranking

 

[Lord Camomile]

Wonder if different medal counting methods are used by different broadcasters

Think BBC has always used the most golds as the ranking

I think most golds is the 'official' IOC way, so prob the one used by most broadcasters.

 

[maomao]

They're having some sort of race walk relay. It really is the most ridiculous sport. The old codgers with their clipboards pretending they're actually judging something and not just making it all up make me laugh.

 

[Lord Camomile]

I know there are arguments for and against for either variant, but I wonder how the medals table would look after every Olympics if instead of counting gold medals as the overriding factor, they gave countries three points for every gold medal, two for silver, and one for bronze.

Unlikely it would make a drastic difference very often for the top countries, but I reckon it change the landscape quite dramatically at the lower end.

Very basic, but here's how things stand this morning:

 

[baldrick]

Slovakia is going to shoot up Lord Camomile 's table with Janja Garnbret competing over the next couple of days

 

[pbsmooth]

I think most golds is the 'official' IOC way, so prob the one used by most broadcasters.

most golds makes sense. they are, after all, the only actual winners...!

 

[Lord Camomile]

Slovakia is going to shoot up Lord Camomile 's table with Janja Garnbret competing over the next couple of days

Yeah, caught a bit of her yesterday and sounds/looks like she's pretty dominant.

(Tbf, there's plenty of other competitors with equally impressive shots)

 

[Lord Camomile]

most golds makes sense. they are, after all, the only actual winners...!

Aye, but it's the medals table, not the winners table

 

[pbsmooth]

Aye, but it's the medals table, not the winners table

Touché

 

[planetgeli]

Yeah, caught a bit of her yesterday and sounds/looks like she's pretty dominant.

(Tbf, there's plenty of other competitors with equally impressive shots)

She actually did a wider splits than that at one point. She was miles ahead of the rest.

 

[baldrick]

I don't want to jinx anything but if I was going to bet on a gold medal it would be Janja.

She's won every bouldering world cup for years except when she had a shoulder injury

She's an incredibly dynamic climber and willingly throws herself at moves and somehow sticks them. Amazing awareness of momentum and very physically confident.

 

[Lord Camomile]

I don't want to jinx anything but if I was going to bet on a gold medal it would be Janja.

She's won every bouldering world cup for years except when she had a shoulder injury

She's an incredibly dynamic climber and willingly throws herself at moves and somehow sticks them. Amazing awareness of momentum and very physically confident.

Echoes a comment from the Reddit thread where I saw the photo:

From the sports that I know of, there are only two athletes I would have bet a lot that they will win their competition. Duplantis and Garnbret.

It's still kind of wild how, even at the very elite end of sport, every now and again you'll get someone who is just levels above the rest.

 

[Silas Loom]

It’s not a super-popular sport. If it was, wouldn’t height and reach count for more? Lots of the challenges seemed to be about ability to stretch.

 

[planetgeli]

It’s not a super-popular sport. If it was, wouldn’t height and reach count for more? Lots of the challenges seemed to be about ability to stretch.

It's one of the fastest growing sports there is. 6 million in the USA. 100,000 in the UK. Just as examples. And it deliberately doesn't rely on height, it's one of the few sports not constrained by height/body strength. Which is why women are some of the best climbers.

It's about problem solving.

 

[Silas Loom]

It's one of the fastest growing sports there is. 6 million in the USA. 100,000 in the UK. Just as examples. And it deliberately doesn't rely on height, it's one of the few sports not constrained by height/body shape.

It's about problem solving.

As someone said yesterday, crafty contenders come up with solutions the problem setters hadn’t considered. Being freakishly tall would surely help.

 

[Aladdin]

Mark English 800m and Sarah Lavin 100m hurdles both into semi finals.