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Olympic Opening Ceremony, London 2012

I think Danny Boyle is a total success of government led creativity! At least half of his films are government funded and they just seem to give him the money and let him do his thing, I don't think any private companies would invest that much money and just let the director get on with it...

If the Olympics wasn't government funded it would be Nike or something and Danny Boyle wouldn't be able to do that show it would have to involve trainers and football shirts.

Instinctively I was about to rail against that, but I think you may have a point. The corporate wankers would have never approved. :)
 
but I think where Danny Boyle got it right here is that this was much more a history of the people of Britain than anything about Britains imperial history, so sufferagettes, jarrow marchers, Windrush, NHS, 60s hippy stuff, punk, rave, pop etc etc.
Yeah, I got all that and thought it was admirable, but it sticks a bit when you learn about all these people being arrested for cycling nearby. And the overwhelming feeling I got was this nauseating celebration of the industrial revolution that led to the enslavement of much of the rest of the world.
I was pissed though and amongst a bunch of hoorays standing up for the anthem and singing along with it. I may have felt differently if I'd been watching from home.
 
Do you actually like *anything*? Do you actually approve of other people liking *anything*?

Or are they all mugs?
Why are you being so hostile? And why are you reading my posts so selectively. I liked it. Loved it even. I can like something but still have qualms about the tone of it, can't I?

I do think people are mugs, though. You are correct on that matter. We're all easily taken in mugs.
 
Yeah, I got all that and thought it was admirable, but it sticks a bit when you learn about all these people being arrested for cycling nearby. And the overwhelming feeling I got was this nauseating celebration of the industrial revolution that led to the enslavement of much of the rest of the world.
I took it more as a look at the shit we went through, and the fights the people had to put up to get to where we're now at, and then a celebration of the best of what we're now about as a country.

It probably helped that I managed to switch off the commentary, so only got danny boyles works directly to reflect on.

I was pissed though and amongst a bunch of hoorays standing up for the anthem and singing along with it. I may have felt differently if I'd been watching from home.
I sympathise.
 
So "Slumdog" was funded entirely by the British government? :rolleyes:

Fuck me. My understanding of international film financing says otherwise.

But morons abide on the interwebs
 
The American audience thought we were a good show. Here's the US TV ratings for 'overseas' games (no idea how they are worked out). I expect half their audience was baffled. :D

1. London – 2012 23.0/40 NBC
2. Beijing – 2008 21.5/37 NBC
3. Lillehammer – 1994 21.0/34 CBS
4. Vancouver – 2010 20.0/33 NBC
5. Nagano – 1998 18.6/30 CBS
6. Sydney – 2000 18.5/32 NBC
7. Seoul – 1988 18.3/33 NBC
8. Athens – 2004 18.0/30 NBC
9. Sarajevo – 1984 17.2/27 ABC
10. Calgary – 1988 17.0/40 ABC
11. Barcelona – 1992 16.5/32 NBC
12. Albertville – 1992 16.0/26 CBS
13. Torino – 2006
 
I've just been watching it again on iplayer as I didn't catch all of it cos I was watching it while at work last night. The symbolism of the NHS sequence is brilliant, the baddies from children's stories destroying the NHS was perfectly subversive. Maybe its the lack of sleep from being on nights at the moment, but I've come over all emotional.
 
Other people I was with felt the same way though

you should have skipped the big screen and the little englanders and watched it with urban ou, you'd have had a much better time ;)

cos my hunch is you don't like that it evoked the *same* emotion in you as it did in them, but they're a bunch of halfwitted morons who read the fail and voted libdem, yunno ;)

(to avoid confusion the them i'm referring to is the standing-up-for-the-anthem crowd, not the mates you were with :))
 
I thought the baddies were Morlocks or people on benefits! I didn't get the kids' story reference or the NHS destroying for that matter :oops:
 
Instinctively I was about to rail against that, but I think you may have a point. The corporate wankers would have never approved. :)

this is something that winds me up

of course 'government funded' is not ideal because governments have an agenda, but everyone has an agenda. the whole idea of having government is to get past agendas

it doesn't work, but that is the idea!
 
this is something that winds me up

of course 'government funded' is not ideal because governments have an agenda, but everyone has an agenda. the whole idea of having government is to get past agendas

it doesn't work, but that is the idea!

The danger with governments of course, is they take time to dislodge. But all things considered I'll take flawed democracy vs. corporate rule. (We should take this to the politics forum ;) )
 
So "Slumdog" was funded entirely by the British government? :rolleyes:

Fuck me. My understanding of international film financing says otherwise.

But morons abide on the interwebs

A lot of the money came from the Indian and British governments directly and through tax breaks. I didn't say British funded I said government funded

Go away shreddy. I hate you
 
I did think though the choice of OMD's Enola Gay was odd, as its about the plane that dropped the bomb on Hiroshima!
 
I recorded it for ShiftyJunior to watch, he thinks it is ''random'' and 'childish'. Still, he reckons it should have been him.
 
Excellent post from another thread:

It was the story of GB's social, cultural and political history seen through an establishment filter. The Queen's wonderful and can take a joke, the NHS is a shining jewel (despite successive government's trying to dismantle it), here are some lovely brave soldiers (better not mention Iraq, Afghanistan or the British Empire though), here come the Suffragettes (ignore all that embarrassing stuff with the King's horse though, eh?). It was a Disneyland version of the country but then it was always going to be, so it's pointless complaining really.
 
"always going to be" is the key there. how tf would he have ever got it passed if it wasn't? :confused:

doesn't mean he didn't manage to somehow smuggle a MASSIVE "save our nhs" segment slap bang in the middle of it :cool:

so now all those stander-upers not only feeling warm and good about themselves are also feeling warm and good about the nhs. way to convert a few million to the cause danny :cool:
 
Yeah, I got all that and thought it was admirable, but it sticks a bit when you learn about all these people being arrested for cycling nearby. And the overwhelming feeling I got was this nauseating celebration of the industrial revolution that led to the enslavement of much of the rest of the world.
I was pissed though and amongst a bunch of hoorays standing up for the anthem and singing along with it. I may have felt differently if I'd been watching from home.

They were enslaved before the industrial revolution as well!

It's a kind of arrogance to assume that the British ruined the world, the industrial revolution did start in Britain and it did change the world, but it wasn't like everything was great up until that point. The fact that Britain with a little bit of science managed to make the governments of the Chinese and Indian empire do what they told them shows how badly those countries were run more than anything. No point in feeling sorry for the rest of the world

The industrial revolution did not enslave the world it was a step towards liberation. The British Empire made a lot of money from slaves but then I think it was the first country to outlaw slavery on the basis of ethics.
 
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