Off topic anti-vaxx nonsense
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hiraethified
They don't have to have them. But they could still ask for them if they wanted.
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hiraethified
'Toxic echo chamber'? What?
hitmouse
music obfuscation technology
NPDHFC
NAC-ITM
The first graph you posted is interesting I agree but the term “ not fully vaccinated “ doesn’t do much for the confidence in the efficiency of the initial two jabs that were so lorded as miraculous around about the time of this sample starting July ending September 2021.
The further two are precise examples of the propaganda I have been talking about. How on earth can the term (based on research) preface Javid said be taken seriously today. I’ve as much trust in Javid as I do Boris or Tony Blair. Yes: Tony Blair has fully endorsed this division of the masked and the unmasked; this division of vaccinated and the unvaccinated; and I’m now supposed to listen to him?
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hiraethified
That's a whole lot of whataboutery. But to repeat: why not take your concerns to the dedicated Covid forum here where there will be no shortage of people able to robustly challenge your opinions with hard science and research?
It's right here: Coronavirus (COVID-19)
Probably a good idea as on this thread one fascistic type has already called for pens for the unvaccinated at champion hill... That’s so 1930’s and very scary- rather like Boris’ mandated inoculations debate.
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hiraethified
I'll look forward to seeing the responses to your opinions.
It’s impossible to ‘laud’ the revolutionary nature of mRNA/ TG vector based vaccines enough. Sentiments to the contrary smack of someone using the internet to question the power of the scientific method. To paraphrase Feynman, what we can engineer we understand. The only conspiracy is that as usual the publically funded development of these products will be turned into private capital. The people should receive their dividend. Plus ca change.
DaveCinzano
WATCH OUT, GEORGE, HE'S GOT A SCREWDRIVER!
Anyway, did you see that ludicrous display last night?
Cyclodunc
Where's the slam tent, mate?
Has a vaccine ever had long term side effects? I don’t think one has?
pompeydunc
Well-Known Member
Why? It's very relevant. There's a Hamlet fan here who wants to come to the match on 2 January who is unvaccinated. It's an utterly selfish approach to take for society and the people he/she will stand next to at the match and on transport to and from. It's also just stupid for themself.
Despite not being required, then I would love to see our club be on the front foot on this given the crowd sizes and the inability to socially distance - make vaccination a condition of entry or (not my preference) admit season ticket holders only and limit number of away fans to restrict capacity.
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tonysingh
Random Clever and Witty Strapline
You're bang on. We've a high profile and we could have really made a point re vaccines and keeping folk safe but we've missed a sitter there imho. It'd be a loud message if we took one of the measures you suggest.
Long term side effects - not to my knowledge, notwithstanding the super-rare thrombosis events which could cause long lasting effects. Did you mean that or the longevity of immunity?
This is hysteria at its most obvious and evidence that a British society under a totalitarian government in the twenty first century is far from an impossibility but instead practically an inevitability.
If you say this treble vaccination is so good why then fear the unvaccinated at all? This has gone beyond fear of a virus and belief in a scientifically “ proven “ vaccine , but instead has mutated into an intolerance of the other.
A previous poster spoke about ICU beds being taken up by not fully vaccinated individuals- he/she at least had a salient point worthy of debate but how does not allowing DHFC supporters that are not vaccinated or not fully vaccinated in to the ground have any validity?
Season ticket holders that are unvaccinated or not fully vaccinated may have something to say about the policy of season ticket holders only!
This is grumpy ‘elf and safety - innit’ rhetoric. It’s sad that people can so quickly impute totalitarian objectives to welfare-ist positions.
COVID passports- to travel abroad
COVID passports- to enter: A theatre, A pub
A restaurant, A cinema, Tesco ? ASDA? M&S?
COVID passports- to be accepted for employment.
Mandated vaccines.
Hardly health and safety
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hiraethified
Agree 100%. Hamlet could - and should - really be setting an example here.
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hiraethified
I don't think you understand what a 'totalitarian government' is.
Cyclodunc
Where's the slam tent, mate?
No not the longevity of immunity. Health Side effects caused by vaccine
I didn’t say we have one. I made the point that IMO this acceptance of authority combined with the now very clear evidence of fear based division as apposed to fear of a virus and belief in a vaccine- divide and rule - means we’re on the slippery slope of acceptance of one... well, many people are!
Cyclodunc
Where's the slam tent, mate?
Boosters existed for other vaccines.
Understanding the science behind a vaccine booster
A Harvard expert shares insight on the science and history of vaccine boosters and why we need them, speculating on a future that includes periodic COVID boosters.
news.harvard.edu
You don’t get answers to that question as it goes against the grain old chap. Get the booster - this one, the next one, the one after that, and the many more to come!
Cyclodunc
Where's the slam tent, mate?
You don’t get answers to that question as it goes against the grain old chap. Get the booster - this one, the next one, the one after that, and the many more to come!
Yes. I will. Absolutely happy to.
Boosters existed for other vaccines.
Understanding the science behind a vaccine booster
A Harvard expert shares insight on the science and history of vaccine boosters and why we need them, speculating on a future that includes periodic COVID boosters.
I’m more than aware that boosters and annual updates occur. I’ve been eligible for the annual flu jab for the last sixteen years. I had one in 2006 and I had one in 2007 but I’ve not had one since as I finally decided in 2008 that the annual letter of fear of flu death from my GP was not for me and I told her so. True, she doesn’t agree with me not taking the COVID inoculations but accepts that it is my choice and she doesn’t agree with Boris’ possible mandated vaccines.
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