Off topic anti-vaxx nonsense
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Well, that’s an opinion I’ve heard many times but it doesn’t quite fit the facts that double and even (boosted) the treble vaccinated, can both become infected and also pass on their infection to others. Neither does it fit the reality that natural immunity gained due to infection is equal to or greater than the protection given by any vaccine.
This coming Hogmanay I believe there will be much Scottish rebellion and many parties will take place as people are sick of this ongoing propaganda.
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hiraethified
Do you go for 'natural immunity' with transmissable sexual diseases too, and not bother with condoms?Well, that’s an opinion I’ve heard many times but it doesn’t quite fit the facts that double and even (boosted) the treble vaccinated, can both become infected and also pass on their infection to others. Neither does it fit the reality that natural immunity gained due to infection is equal to or greater than the protection given by any vaccine.
This coming Hogmanay I believe there will be much Scottish rebellion and many parties will take place as people are sick of this ongoing propaganda.
Interesting point you raise there fella but again it doesn’t fit the facts quite exactly. The stated reality is that COVID vaccinated people can both get infected and pass on infection to others because the vaccine isn’t effective for long enough a period precisely why there is already talk of a fourth shot or second booster jab- where will it end? Conversely as you raise the issue of STD’s..
HIV + women on successful treatment therapy give birth to HIV - children and likewise HIV+ men on successful treatment therapy also father HIV - children because the virus is not passed on by those on successful treatment but by untreated infected people only.
In the case of this “pandemic” everyone gets it and everyone spreads it. Clearly what is needed is natural immunity by way of infection!
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hitmouse
so defeated, thinks it's funny
In Dulwich? I reckon the prospects for a Scottish rebellion in Dulwich are probably quite limited.This coming Hogmanay I believe there will be much Scottish rebellion and many parties will take place as people are sick of this ongoing propaganda.
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hiraethified
You claimed that 'natural immunity' is "equal to or greater than the protection given by any vaccine."
You are talking stupid, ignorant, dangerous bollocks.
Here: educate yourself:
All companies producing the COVID-19 vaccines and its variant tweaked versions are immune from medical law suits against them.. it’s in the contract. I have no intention of taking part in a live medical trial and that is my right just as it is your right to participate.
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hiraethified
Sorry, what has that got to do with your inaccurate claim that 'natural immunity' is "equal to or greater than the protection given by any vaccine"?
Offside
Active Member
Any reports or testing available on the long term affects of the vaccine? Just trying to offer a balanced viewpoint here. Editor quickly gets aggressive the moment anyone steps outside his/her viewpoint. A forum is for discussion no? I’m not trying to start an argument, just a reminder a healthy forum should allow varying viewpoints and opinions.
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hiraethified
I get annoyed when someone posts up something that is blatantly false, like the claim that 'natural immunity' is "equal to or greater than the protection given by any vaccine".
And I start to get irritated when I take the time to point out why such a claim is utter bollocks, the poster quickly switches to another, unrelated topic rather than attempt to defend their position.
You'll find lots of 'viewpoints and opinions' - and more more - in the Covid forum on this very site, where there has been plenty of discussion, with nearly 150,000 posts on 433 topics to date.
I believe it has been one of the best sources of data, facts and information throughout the pandemic, and it's certainly a more relevant place for this discussion to continue.
Visit it here: Coronavirus (COVID-19)
Cyclodunc
Where's the slam tent, mate?
Three things to know about the long-term side effects of COVID vaccines
Many Americans say they want to “make sure the shot is safe” before getting vaccinated. That data is already in, and it is overwhelming.
www.uab.edu
Offside
Active Member
Cool. I can see from viewing various threads over the years you are easily irritated. I don’t agree/disagree with anything above, but it’s a bit off putting.
Other viewers of the forum I hope would have the I intelligence to see you are right. You are. But I often read stuff on here and I can guarantee it gets shot down because it doesn’t ‘fit’. Like I said, not arguing, just trying to offer a balanced perspective. Been on here regularly for years.
The fact remains there is zero data for long term affects. Which is a problem for many people I think. Which is reasonable. Who do u trust nowadays ay?
Other viewers of the forum I hope would have the I intelligence to see you are right. You are. But I often read stuff on here and I can guarantee it gets shot down because it doesn’t ‘fit’. Like I said, not arguing, just trying to offer a balanced perspective. Been on here regularly for years.
The fact remains there is zero data for long term affects. Which is a problem for many people I think. Which is reasonable. Who do u trust nowadays ay?
Offside
Active Member
I probably wouldn’t really trust US publications tbh personally. The point I’m trying to make is everyone has a perspective.Three things to know about the long-term side effects of COVID vaccines
Many Americans say they want to “make sure the shot is safe” before getting vaccinated. That data is already in, and it is overwhelming.
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hiraethified
Allow me to dispel that little conspiracy theory you're working on: ALL new posters who include a link in one of their posts will find that post held back for moderation, to prevent spam.
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hiraethified
That's convenient. So exactly who would you trust and why?
Offside
Active Member
Ok cool. Again, ur rather aggressive. Just never seen that before. Apologies.
Offside
Active Member
In all honesty, not many people nowadays unfortunately. That’s the truth. I tend to do my own research so I can form my own views so I can make my own decisions. Why are u so spiky to everyone all the time? The only reason I’m posting now after years of viewing is I’ve had a couple of glasses of wine and fine it quite frustrating.
You appear to be focusing or emphasising persons with immune systems that are in some way compromised due to age, ill health or some comorbidity - the persons said to be most at risk, whereas my perception here relates to a healthy immunity such as in younger adults, young healthy people, and those with still developing immune systems such as children. I stand by my point as I’m speaking of the many here and not the few ( of which I am one) and compromised immunity or not I still refuse to conform!
tonysingh
Random Clever and Witty Strapline
When you say you do your own research, what sort of sources do you consult? Obviously you check they're peer reviewed and you also read opposition opinion too, yes?
This current “new strain” which is apparently very mild compared to the original as the evidence both here and in South Africa appears to show should have brought about a period of calm reflection and analysis, and as such the hysteria of the last two years stop; so too bringing an end to this governments and some of the medias propaganda that is terrifying all too many.Leave you too it. Happy NY to everyone and see ur smily faces down the next DH game.I’ll be buying more beer to support my local club and looking forward to it 100%
Instead they’ve ratcheted it right up and cancelled the bloody football
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hiraethified
How do you explain the covid cases taking up valuable bed space in King's College being between 80%-90% unvaccinated people?
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hiraethified
So you do your own research? Great. So why won't you reveal the sources you trust so much?
Valuable bed space: are the remaining 10/%~20% vaccinated and so worthy of their bed? Moreover 80%-90% of how many patients exactly?
The amount of money today being spent on advertising that echoes the [get jabbed]mantra, together with politicians and clergymen echoing the same at every opportunity, hardly creates a climate that gives one confidence in statistics that we all know are very easily manipulated to present a desired representation.
Rather than percentages it would be sensible for any hospital to state exact numbers together with their ages because this vaccinated verses non vaccinated mantra has become quite toxic and I suspect it will get much worse.
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I know this is just a shit attempt at trolling but it’s making me question whether to go to the Welling game on the 2nd Jan.
DHFC don’t have to have COVID passes as they are under 4,000 capacity & if people like the OP are going to be there not sure I want to be.
Think the club should implement the passes to reassure the vast majority of sensible fans that want to attend and set a good example.
DHFC don’t have to have COVID passes as they are under 4,000 capacity & if people like the OP are going to be there not sure I want to be.
Think the club should implement the passes to reassure the vast majority of sensible fans that want to attend and set a good example.
I very likely will be at every (Saturday) home league match for the remainder of the season as I’ve yet to have missed one this year. As I said earlier - provided draconian rules are not implemented.
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hiraethified
Here's some research for you
80% of patients admitted to Intensive Care Units in north east London in December not fully vaccinated - NHS North East London
Between 1 December and 31 December 2021, 124 patients with Covid-19 were admitted to intensive care units (ICU) across north east London (NEL). Of these, 80.6% (100) were not fully vaccinated. [...]Read More... from 80% of patients admitted to Intensive Care Units in north east London in...
northeastlondonccg.nhs.uk
Sajid Javid hits out at unvaccinated for ‘taking up hospital beds’
Minister says the 10% of population unjabbed ‘must think about the damage they are doing to society’
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