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NUS national protest against the cuts 10.11.10 [London]

jer said:
.....they're all armchair warriors, their youth long slipped by, they've had to conform, conform, conform...They could only dream of possessing the vitality of your cause. But being cynical, decaying elders they are too tainted by their disappointments...
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Jer appears to have forgotten that he's 40.
 
Yeah, looking at the national press there are a host of students getting op-ed pieces, especially on the web, getting a strong message out that this isn't just about the student cuts, it's the thin end of a wedge. But then someone who went protesting because they won't be able to buy a house probably isn't really into the 'bigger picture'.
 
Flanflinger said:
Listen up. I spent more time locked up in police cells as a youth than most on here. I spent time in a detention centre where just looking the wrong way at a screw earnt you a good kicking. I've done porridge and seen it all in my 52 years. One thing I did learn is you can't beat the system. As for voting, labour everytime since 79. It's a shitty world out there, so learn to live with it and look after number one.
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Like The Clash said

Now every cheap hood strikes a bargain with the
world
And ends up making payments on a sofa or a girl
Love 'n' hate tattooed across the knuckles of his hands
Hands that slap his kids around 'cause they don't understand how
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Now fuck off.
 
Probably both, it's all main building stuff. I recognise a couple of those rascals from 2009's occupation :D
 
I was watching The Wright Stuff this morning and despite the constant need to reassert that they can't support the "violence", it was pretty damn sympathetic, especially the people calling in. The facts are without the "violence" kicking off this would never have become such an issue. There was even a wee glint in your man Wright's eye when saying he couldn't support the violence but maybe it should be expected when government attacks peoples conditions.

Also I had never watched it before as I assumed it was retarded shite but it's actual less reactionary than most of those types of shows, which is kinda depressing when you think about it.
 
greenfield said:
Jenny Jones of the Green Party (and Met Police Authority) condemns "the actions of a violent minority". It's on the GPEW website, so I suppose it's an official Green Party position. :rolleyes:

http://www.greenparty.org.uk/news/2010-11-11-jenny-jones-tuition-fees-protest.html
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Young Greens spokesgreen a *bit* better: -

Obviously we abhor violence against people, but the events at Millbank were a totally understandable response to pent up anger of young people who feel they are being jilted at every turn. Many of the protesters at millbank were younger college and sixth form students worried they will be priced out of university by a trebling of fees. Hundreds of people went inside the building and thousands more were cheering from the courtyard. This was a spontaneous action uniting thousands of ordinary students."

"What happened yesterday generated momentum in the student movement that must be harnessed if these cuts are to be defeated and the movement esclated. We fully support direct action, occupations and other activities that utilise sensible tactics to show the Government we will not accept higher fees, and we will not accept cuts to higher education funding.
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http://younggreens.greenparty.org.uk/node/219
 
They're going with what they know for starters. I reckon the Manc. Uni occupation will be the first of a few.
 
the button said:
Meanwhile, occupation underway at Manchester University: -

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=433804&l=50d3e7ef8d&id=106855322672422

Reports differ as to whether they're in the chancellor's office or the finance department. :)
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From the Manchester occupation:
Students at Manchester University have peacefully occupied the John Owens building and are lobbying the finance board over the coalition attack on higher education.
We are demanding that the university opens its books so that we know where the cuts will fall, how many voluntary redundancies have already been made and to highlight the fact that the vice chancellor is paid 20 times the average salary. The financial director has denied any cuts are planned
despite the fact that voluntary redundancies have been announced and the
combined studies department has already been cut. We are here to support lecturers and administrative staff who will be losing there jobs. To oppose the rise in tuition fees that will price out most working class students. And to oppose the privatisation of our universities. ends
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latest:
Manchester occupation- 3 people are going in to negotiate the demands. The finance board are barricaded in a finance meeting.
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Student_Teacher said:
I just think that the amount of damage caused is going to have such a negative impact. There was little chance of us changing anythng anyway, without creating chaos. Students have a bad enough reputation as it is. The was it's being shown in the media, is that all students behaved like that, which means those of us who protested peacefully may as well not have been there, because the message we gave, has been stamped out by all of the violence.
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No, it was very important that there were 50,000 peaceful protesters backing up the direct action. Your presence wasn't wasted at all.

Most of the people I work with are really not known for their tolerance of student protests (mostly people who worked their way up or did aprenticeships) and & no-one has outright condemned yesterday and quite a few have been supportive.
 
TopCat said:
Sorry but no, I advocate political violence in some circumstances. :)
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so do I, and i was rush posting, but what I was trying to say in response to jer's pious handwringing was that "there is a difference between saying an elite strike force should get together and have as big a ruck as possible, just for lolz" (which I wouldn't) and standing by those who did it after, and saying they weree justified (which I do).
 
Streathamite said:
so do I, and i was rush posting, but what I was trying to say in response to jer's pious handwringing was that "there is a difference between saying an elite strike force should get together and have as big a ruck as possible, just for lolz" (which I wouldn't) and standing by those who did it after, and saying they weree justified (which I do).
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I merely put forth the kerrrazy notion that violence is not a clever option. No piety or wringing of hands, I assure you.
 
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