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NUS national protest against the cuts 10.11.10 [London]

Lol. so everyone fighting the poll tax should have just paid the tax then, oh noez we're breaking the law !! :eek:
 
It makes it much harder for anti-fee politicans make the case if they start to get assoicated with militancy.

"make the case"...:rolleyes:

Your argument is exactly the same one trotted out for 20 odd years that has left students in this mess.
 
Listen up. I spent more time locked up in police cells as a youth than most on here. I spent time in a detention centre where just looking the wrong way at a screw earnt you a good kicking. I've done porridge and seen it all in my 52 years. One thing I did learn is you can't beat the system. As for voting, labour everytime since 79. It's a shitty world out there, so learn to live with it and look after number one.

You didn't try hard enough.
 
Royal ulster constabulary? :confused: :D

ujs as in the union of jewish students? oy vey ... :facepalm: :(
see what i mean? Now Pickman's is snared up in it. i swear, all I have to do is to chuck Phil mitchell into the mix right now and the whole gthread will be in utter confusion
 
Aside from the throwing of a fire extinguisher casing from the roof (which was a fucking stupid thing to do), looked like a top day out from the news.
 
Aside from the throwing of a fire extinguisher casing from the roof (which was a fucking stupid thing to do), looked like a top day out from the news.

Oh come on, there was a fire on the ground, the fire extinguisher was just being passed swiftly down to assist.
 
Well, I've never said that. I don't doff my cap to the man but nor do I don a balaclava, either.

Oh. Do we have to wear balaclavas? I might not be able to participate in any direct action after all. No-one looks good in a balaclava.
 
I think moon means being seen as militant is a distinct disadvantage.

There may be occasions when this is a valid point...when you are making a perfectly reasonable, and easy to accomodate, request for something to be slightly changed at no real cost (political or financial) to those making the decisions.

This ain't that occasion though is it?
 
Student debt isn't like other debt, I repay student loans, but only when I’m in work. The new proposals mean you won't repay them until you are on over 21k which is an improvement on the current system that affects me.

The main thing that is unfair about it is that people previous haven't had to pay back any money for their education.

Young people are facing high property prices, having to repay student loans and a life without the types of pensions that baby boomers have enjoyed.
 
There may be occasions when this is a valid point...when you are making a perfectly reasonable, and easy to accomodate, request for something to be slightly changed at no real cost (political or financial) to those making the decisions.

This ain't that occasion though is it?

It might for instance make it harder for a Labour MP to attend a future anti-fees protest if they think they could be associated with violence.
 
Student debt isn't like other debt, I repay student loans, but only when I’m in work. The new proposals mean you won't repay them until you are on over 21k which is an improvement on the current system that affects me.

The main thing that is unfair about it is that people previous haven't had to pay back any money for their education.

Young people are facing high property prices, having to repay student loans and a life without the types of pensions that baby boomers have enjoyed.

Whose fault is that?
 
Been reflecting on who might be the main winners and losers yesterday.

Some thoughts:


Losers

Aaron Porter and the NUS – he’s been whinging almost constantly on Twitter, and on Newsnight last night, and again on breakfast TV this morning. By his own reckoning, he thinks the NUS lost control of their message and that public support for students has been damaged.

David and Simon Reuben – the billionaire brothers who actually own Millbank Tower, along with its shiny new pile of broken glass. Presumably they (or their insurers) will have to fork out for new windows, though I guess that’s pretty trivial compared to what they lost when Lehman Brothers went down. (They were also the landlords of Lehman’s old computer centre in docklands, and apparently are also on the hook for millions in investments that they’ll never see again. Aaah.)


Winners

The boys and gals who got their smashfest, obviously, with hardly anyone getting badly hurt.

Clare Solomon, ULU President. Was apparently one of the people that got into Millbank Tower yesterday. Came across very well on TV last night in front of Jeremy Paxman and again this morning, in her red and black. Very articulate, made Aaron Porter look a bit of a twat.

Metropolitan Police. But yes. Surely someone has noticed they have their own agenda on budget cuts? As well as still smarting over the stick they took over Ian Tomlinson’s death and their tactics at the G20. This is one case where I'll take conspiracy over cock-up.
 
Oh. Do we have to wear balaclavas? I might not be able to participate in any direct action after all. No-one looks good in a balaclava.
I would have to agree. They don't look good, they itch and are hard to explain away in court. Better a hood, and shades.
 
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