NUS national protest against the cuts 10.11.10 [London]

[fogbat]

I hate that term "sheep" or "sheeple". Shows a distinct lack of imagination.

I hate that cliché "shows a distinct lack of imagination". It shows an -oh

 

[ymu]

The main thing is that iot will deter loads of working class kids from going to uni. the less adffluent your background, the less likely you are to stomach that sort of debt. a huge step back in time.

Not just that, but as far as I can work out, the majority of graduates in the UK are employed in the public sector. About 26% of public sector jobs are graduate jobs compared to just 6% in the private sector - and the public sector accounts for around 30% of all jobs.

There's a serious shortage of capacity in my field (public sector medical research), in large part because as soon as anyone gets trained up they get offered twice as much pay by the pharmaceutical industry. It's the same problem right across the public sector - without the same sort of job security, pensions and flexibility that used to be part of the bargain, but with the same lower salaries that these concessions bought, it's hard to find reasons to stay there.

Loading people up with debt that will cost them 9% of their salary to pay back is going to make it even harder for the public sector to recruit and retain skills and experience. Which is, of course, a fringe benefit for those who want the public sector to disappear - and the pharmaceutical industry would just love those pesky independent scientists to go away - but it's a fucking disaster for the rest of us.

 

[TopCat]

Anarchists protesting they want more help from the Goverment???????????

I reckon the guy at the fronts employment potential is about zero now.

I will train him up and give him a good job.

 

[Streathamite]

Well if I was running an anti-fee campaign getting the government's opposition on board would be an obvious strategy.

oh ffs. The PLP are FUCK ALL use to us, and it's overwhelmingly in their interest to use the cuts situation to hurt the condems anyway.
SCREW LABOUR. SCREW PARLIAMENT.

 

[Pickman's model]

In future, you could organise a screening process where only the right type of people go on demos.

you'd be out for a start

 

[gawkrodger]

Anyone got clips of Clare Soloman? Always used to utterly detest her - full on swappie of the worst kind. Has she changed somewhat in the last 7 or so years?

 

[Pickman's model]

Anyone got clips of Clare Soloman? Always used to utterly detest her - full on swappie of the worst kind. Has she changed somewhat in the last 7 or so years?

the current london student has an embarrassing picture of her in a meeting with nick clegg with some guff scrawled on her hand.

 

[Streathamite]

Anarchists protesting they want more help from the Goverment???????????

I reckon the guy at the fronts employment potential is about zero now.

with comments as cringeworthily stupid as this, i'm surprised yours is any higher

 

[Pickman's model]

Anarchists protesting they want more help from the Goverment???????????

I reckon the guy at the fronts employment potential is about zero now.

i don't.

 

[krtek a houby]

you'd be out for a start

I'm sure you're sure I'm in need of re-educating, comrade.

Ah, the elitist far left. What unbridled joy you bring to our lives.

 

[Pickman's model]

I'm sure you're sure I'm in need of re-educating, comrade.

you're wrong.

 

[Orang Utan]

Anarchists protesting they want more help from the Goverment???????????

I reckon the guy at the fronts employment potential is about zero now.

i hear simon cowell's got in touch with them and wants them to form a band.

 

[krtek a houby]

you're wrong.

Yes, everything I know is wrong. Thank you for making me see the error of my ways.

 

[Pickman's model]

Yes, everything I know is wrong. Thank you for making me see the error of my ways.

if you say so. i just don't see why you'd be a credit to any demonstration worthy of the name.

 

[Vintage Paw]

I went to London and all I got was this lousy blister.

*ahem* Off topic I know, but a warning to those going on demos in the future - don't think a march across the capital is a good time to break in a new pair of trainers.

Anyway, in light of the news coverage, I wish I'd have made a sign yesterday that read 'I don't condone Aaron Porter'. What a predictable tool.

We got there very late due to an abysmal coach journey and the heaviest traffic known to humankind. Who the fuck decides to go via Warwick when travelling from Stoke? We managed to tag onto the very, very end of the march, but by the time we reached Millbank officials were telling us the demo was called off and we should turn around and go home. Which we didn't. But we did turn off and go across Lambeth Bridge to wait in the cold for 90+ minutes for our coach to eventually pick us up again. Then we spent 2 hours at a standstill in Chelsea traffic. Got home just before midnight.

12 hours on a coach for 90 minutes of marching - I'd do it all again tomorrow (well, once my blister is better) because to show support is important. </idealistic>

 

[love detective]

Anyone got clips of Clare Soloman? Always used to utterly detest her - full on swappie of the worst kind. Has she changed somewhat in the last 7 or so years?

I thought she was pretty bad to be honest on newnight - only looked good as she had that prick porter next to her

she's counterfire now no?

 

[krtek a houby]

if you say so. i just don't see why you'd be a credit to any demonstration worthy of the name.

Unlike your good self, comrade.

I must learn to instill hatred in my flabby heart, give up the way of the pacifist and throw shapes, poses and the rest on my next demo. That way, I will have truly arrived.

 

[TopCat]

Unlike your good self, comrade.

I must learn to instill hatred in my flabby heart, give up the way of the pacifist and throw shapes, poses and the rest on my next demo. That way, I will have truly arrived.

Just try to be effective eh?

 

[butchersapron]

I thought she was pretty bad to be honest on newnight - only looked good as she had that prick porter next to her

she's counterfire now no?

Yes she is, and as i noted the other day it's that lot who are now getting the call from the bbc every time, not the swp. The contacts rees and german made apparently on behalf of the stwc are being worked very hard right now.

 

[Citizen66]

Listen up. I spent more time locked up in police cells as a youth than most on here. I spent time in a detention centre where just looking the wrong way at a screw earnt you a good kicking. I've done porridge and seen it all in my 52 years. One thing I did learn is you can't beat the system. As for voting, labour everytime since 79. It's a shitty world out there, so learn to live with it and look after number one.

So although the Tories are at the levers of power and making attacks on the wider population in order to protect their own wealth and their capital cash cow you suggest that, in order for the working class to defend themselves they should act like - Tories!?

You're pretty naive for a person over fifty.

 

[love detective]

Yes she is, and as i noted the other day it's that lot who are now getting the. From the bbc every time, not the swp. The contacts rees and german made apparently on behalf of the astwc are being worked very hard right now.

It was clear from the get go of counterfire that they were aiming to monopolise that arena - their founding/starting statement could have pretty much been 'please let us on the telly'

 

[krtek a houby]

Just try to be effective eh?

I shall change the system through love, vibes and a cracking leafleting campaign.

 

[Random]

I shall change the system through love, vibes and a cracking leafleting campaign.

The time for talking is over. Now call it extreme if you like, but I propose we hit it hard, and we hit it fast, with a major, and I mean major, leaflet campaign.

 

[Streathamite]

In future, you could organise a screening process where only the right type of people go on demos.

if there's a point, you're guaranteed to miss it, aren't you?

 

[Random]

The only people who ever seriously propose screening and policing demos are those who want to make sure no militancy happens.

 

[krtek a houby]

if there's a point, you're guaranteed to miss it, aren't you?

I see... no points... here.

I see the ususal posturing from a minority here who seek to alienate and vilify those that don't see eye to eye with them.

I am not in favour of protesting in their particular style. And as a result, I am now told I should not be on any more demos.

Your own elitism is in danger of eclipsing the elitism you claim to despise.

 

[stethoscope]

The Boris approach... only wants the nicest and most ordely type of protesters in Parliament Square!

 

[krtek a houby]

The Boris approach... only wants the nicest and most ordely type of protesters in Parliament Square!

I'm sure if those EDL idiots were kicking off there would be outcry, no?

 

[chilango]

Tsk.

It's not about the morality of violence.

Its about strategy and tactics.

 

[butchersapron]

I'm sure if those EDL idiots were kicking off there would be outcry, no?

Because of their targets and motivations you muppet. See the difference?