cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
Just announced in the Commons, 12.4 million downloads so far. 
NHS Covid 19 App
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Hope that is true.Just announced in the Commons, 12.4 million downloads so far.
Downloaded and active is pretty important too. Also does the download figure include those that downloaded then uninstalled?
Would hope so.
That said if I had an downloaded that required a connection or Bluetooth and I was not on WiFi/Bluetooth could an app store tell?
As for the uninstalled I have downloaded, uninstalled then reinstalled. It seems a separate (ish) process from the initial downloaded.
elbows
Well-Known Member
I just mentioned this on the main UK thread but it will soon be lost there so I should stick it here too:
Article also contains some vague talk of a 'security' angle.
It is unsurprising to me that the authorities may want a 'manual' approach to self-isolation when it involves a range of essential public sector workers and their institutional settings, since staffing levels are one of the things the authorities shit themselves about in bad pandemics/epidemics. So they want wiggle room when it comes to the rules, call the fudge hotline now, management will balance the priorities, good luck.
Police told not to download NHS Covid-19 app
National Police Chiefs Council says officers should not install contact-tracing app on work phones.
www.bbc.co.uk
Article also contains some vague talk of a 'security' angle.
It is unsurprising to me that the authorities may want a 'manual' approach to self-isolation when it involves a range of essential public sector workers and their institutional settings, since staffing levels are one of the things the authorities shit themselves about in bad pandemics/epidemics. So they want wiggle room when it comes to the rules, call the fudge hotline now, management will balance the priorities, good luck.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
I think this why we got told to switch off our apps at work - in fact this is what were told explicitly. Indeed, my boss has just had to self-isolate after the app told them they'd been in contact with someone who'd tested positively, which is strange as they hadn't been out of the house since the app was launched.
I'm not sure how it works - how long would you have to be in proximity with someone before the app considers you to have had contact with them? And what if it's just a neighbour through a wall?
elbows
Well-Known Member
I dont have the brain space in this pandemic to deal with technical aspects of the app so I keep out of that stuff.
But certainly when it comes to the rules they set in this pandemic, one of the main ways they can manipulate things to try to avoid some undesirable (for the authorities) outcomes and unintended side-effects is to play around with their rules for what actually counts as a close contact when they are doing this contract tracing and self-isolation stuff manually rather than with the app.
Its understandable, but it has its own bad implications, especially when managers etc start acting like the arbitrary rules and definitions that have been chosen exactly match how the virus actually operates. In reality I dont think the virus got the memo, and I moaned about this in the past, eg when setting a 15 minute time for what counts as a close contact.
But certainly when it comes to the rules they set in this pandemic, one of the main ways they can manipulate things to try to avoid some undesirable (for the authorities) outcomes and unintended side-effects is to play around with their rules for what actually counts as a close contact when they are doing this contract tracing and self-isolation stuff manually rather than with the app.
Its understandable, but it has its own bad implications, especially when managers etc start acting like the arbitrary rules and definitions that have been chosen exactly match how the virus actually operates. In reality I dont think the virus got the memo, and I moaned about this in the past, eg when setting a 15 minute time for what counts as a close contact.
andysays
Love and solidarity
You (and the many others who I imagine have done this) will have been counted twice.
Cid
Proper break this time
15 minutes within 2 meters of someone with a positive test. This is judged by bluetooth signal strength, which is why things like walls present something of a question mark.
15 minutes IIRC> And Bluetooth this BLE usage with the app, apparently can detect if there's a wall between you or sommat.
Or you know, just turn Bluetooth off when you're in doors / or turn the tracking off in the app. No bother.
On advertising/publicising it: I just had an email (albeit in my thorough spam folder) about it. It said that everyone 16 or older who is registered with a GP and had provided an email address would receive the email, and people who had provided a mobile phone number only would get a text.
I have not uninstalled btw
maomao
普費斯
No they won't. Google and Apple both calculate downloads per user account, not per act of downloading.
Cid
Proper break this time
Yep... Although there will probably be quite a few double counts, judging by some urbans saying the app has been downloaded onto their work phones.
Really? I've had both!
weltweit
Well-Known Member
I just got the email.
How easy is it to put the app to sleep? at least the bluetooth aspect - I don't want it hunting for partners running my battery down when I am safe at home! (I normally have bluetooth switched off all the time)
Also - I doubt I am going to need to scan any QR Codes, but assuming I want to, do I just take a photo of the code thingy with the phone's front camera or what / how is it done?
How easy is it to put the app to sleep? at least the bluetooth aspect - I don't want it hunting for partners running my battery down when I am safe at home! (I normally have bluetooth switched off all the time)
Also - I doubt I am going to need to scan any QR Codes, but assuming I want to, do I just take a photo of the code thingy with the phone's front camera or what / how is it done?
blameless77
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API documentation in case anyone wants to know how they calculate exposure risk
developers.google.com
Exposure Notifications API service update | Google Play services | Google for Developers
developers.google.com
you know how to turn Bluetooth off right? you can just do that.
Or in the app there is a button to turn off tracking.
When you enter a venue and they have one of the relevant QR codes, you use that element of the app and it will take a picture for you.
blameless77
Well-Known Member
And this is at least heartening:
www.ft.com
Moonshot doesn’t look so crazy I f they have six tests to deploy. It becomes almost like an immunity passport for healthcare/ teachers/ students?
High-speed Covid-19 tests to be rolled out across UK next week
Hospitals, care homes and labs to benefit from 90-minute turnround times
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
"if"And this is at least heartening:
Moonshot doesn’t look so crazy I f they have six tests to deploy. It becomes almost like an immunity passport for healthcare/ teachers/ students?High-speed Covid-19 tests to be rolled out across UK next week
Hospitals, care homes and labs to benefit from 90-minute turnround times
It's a big word, in this context.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
My Bluetooth is always on as I use it to connect to speakers and sometimes headphones. Is this bad? Why are people so averse to it?
Battery, - if not actually needing to connect to anything, why have it on.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
Just cba to turn it off
Winot
I wholeheartedley agree with your viewpoint
And this is at least heartening:
Moonshot doesn’t look so crazy I f they have six tests to deploy. It becomes almost like an immunity passport for healthcare/ teachers/ students?High-speed Covid-19 tests to be rolled out across UK next week
Hospitals, care homes and labs to benefit from 90-minute turnround times
That article is dated 3 August and says that the 90 min tests are due to be rolled out ‘next week’. Have they been?
zora said:
And I've had neither -- and our surgery certainly has my mobile number, and most likely my email too.
They won't know that I only have a primitive/non-smart phone.
I suppose the way things are being done in Wales might? be different I suppose ..........
Cid
Proper break this time
And I've had neither -- and our surgery certainly has my mobile number, and most likely my email too.
They won't know that I only have a primitive/non-smart phone.
I suppose the way things are being done in Wales might? be different I suppose ..........
I've not had either... either. England and definitely on GP/NHS list for phone (have had covid related stuff before).
Buddy Bradley
Pantheistic solipsist
Well, they have seen you...
moochedit
Mr Mooched It
And I've had neither -- and our surgery certainly has my mobile number, and most likely my email too.
They won't know that I only have a primitive/non-smart phone.
I suppose the way things are being done in Wales might? be different I suppose ..........
Does the nhs have a central list of emails and mobile numbers or are they relying on gp's to provide them to them (or even send the emails)?
I doubt my doctor knows my email address as i rarely go there for anything. I think my dentist may have it though.
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
Looks like GP's, which is odd, as mine has both my email address & mobile number, but I haven't received anything.
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