Newsnight propagandises interview with working single mum

[past caring]

Asking somebody if they should have had a child ffs.

Actually, it was far, far worse - Stratton asked why, given her circumstances, she chose to keep her child, not why she had a child in the first place.

 

[Psychonaut]

Just had a reply back from my complaint to the Beeb:

very sly or very ignorant wording, imo 'We are happy to accept her contention that her current situation was not made clear'

'her current situation'; makes it sound like a change in circumstances, as if shes just recently found a job rather than having been in employment all along, ever since her HB payments originally started.

 

[danny la rouge]

very sly or very ignorant wording, imo 'We are happy to accept her contention that her current situation was not made clear'

'her current situation'; makes it sound like a change in circumstances, as if shes just recently found a job rather than having been in employment all along, ever since her HB payments originally started.

Cunts. Don't drop it.

 

[danny la rouge]

Just had a reply back from my complaint to the Beeb:





Not really, no Why was her situation misrepresented? Has the apology been made publically, on air?

Any what is the implication of the phrase "current situation"? Doesn't that seem as if this is just a technicality?

 

[articul8]

It means "Ok she might actually be in a job at the moment...but she's just the sort that would be a benefits scrounger" and probably will be on the dole soon

 

[butchersapron]

Nice to see a real genuine 100% fact described as a 'contention'.

 

[frogwoman]

Stop benefit scrounging by putting people out of work.

 

[purenarcotic]

I really dislike that the BBC's complaint box is only a 1,000 odd characters. I want to write more dammit. But complaint submitted and petition signed (obviously).

 

[frogwoman]

I really dislike that the BBC's complaint box is only a 1,000 odd characters. I want to write more dammit. But complaint submitted and petition signed (obviously).

That's another reason why it's going down the pan. Didnt used to be like that.

 

[danny la rouge]

What approximate time did it air?

 

[purenarcotic]

the 23rd May I believe. Or so the clip on the petition says.

 

[purenarcotic]

That's another reason why it's going down the pan. Didnt used to be like that.

I think you can still phone them up and have a go, but I dunno if there's an actual e-mail somewhere you can write to,

 

[danny la rouge]

the 23rd May I believe. Or so the clip on the petition says.

That's the date. I have that. The complaint for asks for an approximate time. I know Newsnight airs at 10.30, but I mean the piece.

Complaints will be taken more seriously if they come from people who saw the programme.

(Oh, and I won't be signing the petition).

 

[purenarcotic]

Oh, I don't know, I just said I didn't remember. It's probably still on iplayer if you wanted to trawl through it.

Why not signing the petition, out of interest?

 

[danny la rouge]

Oh, I don't know, I just said I didn't remember. It's probably still on iplayer if you wanted to trawl through it.

Why not signing the petition, out of interest?

I don't sign petitions, as a generality.

 

[purenarcotic]

Fair enough.

 

[frogwoman]

I don't think you read my reply previous page though did you? Not properly I mean? Because I actually answered that exact question!

Side issue I know, the above and what you and I posted earlier is really for the Guardian thread I'd say ...happy to get into this over there if you like though

But let's focus on the BBC in this one, because they're the principal villains here surely?

i think rather than the guardian or bbc being principal villains it displays the bubble world in which these people live tbh. it displays the culture in which breaking of journalistic ethics is acceptable, desirable even. imagine sitting in a room and doctoring an interview to make it out like somebody had said something different to what they'd said. imagine what sort of cunt you'd have to be to do that, but they think it's normal.

 

[Clair De Lune]

That's the date. I have that. The complaint for asks for an approximate time. I know Newsnight airs at 10.30, but I mean the piece.

Complaints will be taken more seriously if they come from people who saw the programme.

(Oh, and I won't be signing the petition).

just checked....from 7mins on

 

[Ms Ordinary]

If the 20 thousand who have signed the petition could also go here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/complaints/complain-online/ then that would be good.

I will, when I've watched it again tonight (unless there is a transcript anywhere).
Was she really asked why she chose to keep her child? I missed that bit when I watched.

 

[danny la rouge]

Fair enough.

I have, however, lodged a complaint, and look forward to disparaging their reply. And continuing and continuing until Allegra Stratton's 'current situation' changes.

 

[danny la rouge]

just checked....from 7mins on

I guessed 10.45.

 

[past caring]

I will, when I've watched it again tonight (unless there is a transcript anywhere).
Was she really asked why she chose to keep her child? I missed that bit when I watched.

They didn't air that part of the interview - but she says that's what she was asked and it's reported in the stateman piece linked to on the first page of this thread.

 

[Ms Ordinary]

ta

 

[Blagsta]

I've followed up on their inadequate response with a second complaint

They'll likely just ignore you. It seems to be their MO at the moment.

 

[articul8]

They'll likely just ignore you. It seems to be their MO at the moment.

Yes, expect so - but I wanted to say how this isn't just an unfortunate misrepresention of one individual's circumstances. They think that since the neoliberal line on welfare is shared by the leaderships of all 3 main parties - they aren't showing "bias" by reinforcing it. But clearly by reinforcing these perceptions, they are effectively propagandising for austerity.

 

[Blagsta]

I complained about them misrepresenting DLA last year, got a weasel reply. I responded that it wasn't a satisfactory reply and stated why and heard nothing more.

 

[Nylock]

Complaint sent.

 

[temper_tantrum]

BBC complaints dept are one of the worst, most unresponsive, most dismissive, least transparent bunches of people I've ever contacted. About on a par with the Royal Mail complaints people.

Twitter, petitions, coverage in other media outlets etc is far more likely to get a response on this than just writing in to the complaints people, I'm afraid.

 

[Nylock]

BBC complaints dept are one of the worst, most unresponsive, most dismissive, least transparent bunches of people I've ever contacted. About on a par with the Royal Mail complaints people.

Twitter, petitions, coverage in other media outlets etc is far more likely to get a response on this than just writing in to the complaints people, I'm afraid.

Yep, this is the pro-forma reply i got from them:

Thank you for contacting us regarding ‘Newsnight’, broadcast on 23 May 2012.

‘Newsnight’ was sorry to hear Shanene Thorpe was unhappy following her interview. While the BBC is still yet to receive a formal complaint, ‘Newsnight’ contacted Shanene to hear her concerns. We are happy to accept her contention that her current situation was not made clear and have apologised.

We hope this allays your concerns, thanks again for taking the time to contact us.

Kind Regards

Philip McCrea
BBC Complaints

...response time was quick so i'm assuming they are getting a lot of grief about this...

 

[Nylock]

BTW, how do you make a 'formal' complaint to the BBC?