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[Shippou-Sensei]

i can understand the imunity to some time travel issues... but wishing shit into existance is a bit shit

it would fucking speed up back to the future III though... oh no the doc is trapped in the wild west... *thwaaaap!!!* marty thank the heavens! you remembered me back to the future! why is my hair on fire?

 

[Shippou-Sensei]

She was dead.

It also brought back a dalek that had never existed (but left echos???) with light inside. It did this in a second or two but took thousands of years to fix Amy, who did at least exist.

not quite... people inside the box can be healed if their dna touches the outside of the box (don't know wtf is wrong with the fucking giant lump of dna inside the box but hey)

creatures that no longer belong in the universe don't disappear any more... they now turn to stone... but if that stone i struck by bits of the old universe in which they did exist they will be restored

 

[ATOMIC SUPLEX]

Because she's a time traveller. Once you spend time in the TARDIS you get sort of immune to time changing like that. It's a fairly well-established thing on Doctor Who.

Except on that one occasion when they decided she wasn't and she forgot Rory.

 

[cesare]

Jesus Christ, some people do love to suck the joy out of things don't they? It was FUN! It's a FUN PROGRAMME!

Yes!

Can't someone just vortex manipulator these quizzics back to 1963 to pick infinite holes starting from the beginning?

 

[Shippou-Sensei]

Yes!

Can't someone just vortex manipulator these quizzics back to 1963 to pick infinite holes starting from the beginning?

we do that anyway

like why does susan say she named the tardis?

why does susan call the doctor grandfather

why does the doctor consider killing a caveman something massivly out of charactor

why has the doctor never heard of the daleks ? it might be his first time bumping into them but the timelords as a whole should know them well



actually these are only really issues due to later story changes really... and man some of the explanations are fucking convoluted

 

[cesare]

we do that anyway

like why does susan say she named the tardis?

why does susan call the doctor grandfather

why does the doctor consider killing a caveman something massivly out of charactor

why has the doctor never heard of the daleks ? it might be his first time bumping into them but the timelords as a whole should know them well



actually these are only really issues due to later story changes really... and man some of the explanations are fucking convoluted

But without these contradictions/holes/cracks ... it wouldn't be any fun!

 

[Iguana]

ok so what about the starship uk ... did they go to that or not is the wale free or doomed to electroshock therapy?

Yeah, that all happened, it just didn't have a crack on it's underside after the whale was freed. Most things in the series happened, just not anything involving the crack. Though the Angels two parter would have gone completely differently as there was no crack erasing the soldiers throughout it and the angels at the end. Which is especially weird as the River there was a later version than the River in the finale and had already experienced the making of a new universe but wasn't ok with the crack that she would have known no longer could have been happening.

 

[Shippou-Sensei]

oh now your just being silly

yes plot holes and continuty errors are going to occur on a show as long running as doctor who and the change in the nature of the show has meant a certain amount of retconning has taken place and although it is mildly amusing to debate the nature of these issues it's not a case of plot inconsistency being something you look forward to

actually sometimes the nicest bits are when the show skilfully bridges these issues

 

[Shippou-Sensei]

Which is especially weird as the River there was a later version than the River in the finale and had already experienced the making of a new universe but wasn't ok with the crack that she would have known no longer could have been happening.

don't worry shes been in the tardis loads she has magic powers too that how she was able to magic into existance her diary even though the ink was magic souluable

 

[Stigmata]

not quite... people inside the box can be healed if their dna touches the outside of the box (don't know wtf is wrong with the fucking giant lump of dna inside the box but hey)

I guess it's the same principle as the medical nanites giving everyone gasmasks in that WWII episode- young Amelia was a DNA donor from which a model of a healthy adult Amy could be extrapolated.

i can understand the imunity to some time travel issues... but wishing shit into existance is a bit shit

Maybe, but thoughts influencing the physical universe is a theme that's been touched on before in the show.

 

[Iguana]

Maybe, but thoughts influencing the physical universe is a theme that's been touched on before in the show.

Yup, just like when everyone thought about the Doctor and it influenced the physical universe enough for him to defeat the Master.

 

[holteman]

I just spent 2 days wishing River would appear on her knees in font of me...



It didn't work.....


Doctor who fail

 

[TrippyLondoner]

I just spent 2 days wishing River would appear on her knees in font of me...



It didn't work.....


Doctor who fail

Damn real life eh? Bloody stupid isn't it....

 

[Quartz]

i can understand the imunity to some time travel issues... but wishing shit into existance is a bit shit

She wasn't wishing him into existence; she was creating a bridge between her universe and the one in which the Doctor was trapped.

 

[Shippou-Sensei]

what about the tardis? the diary that shouldn't exist? ok i'll give the diary as artistic licence but wtf happened with the tardis... one moment it was exploding next moment what? was it fully repaired on this side of the universe or was it on the other side with the doctor.... why does he turn up in the tardis why wasn't there a crack?

since when can people wish them selves across universes? didn't fucking work for rose and she had a whole tardis in her head at one point

 

[Santino]

why has the doctor never heard of the daleks ? it might be his first time bumping into them but the timelords as a whole should know them well

Multi-dimensional time. They didn't exist in the past then, but they do now.

 

[holteman]

Did anyone really expect a perfectly scientific ending? no loose ties, no strange holes in the plot?


Have to say the whole remembering him back into existence did piss me off on the same level as "if everyone thinks of the doctor at the same time...."

 

[Shippou-Sensei]

i have a better explanation... mercury poisoning

that fluid link gave off some fumes and he was mad as a hatter for the rest of that episode

 

[Shippou-Sensei]

Have to say the whole remembering him back into existence did piss me off on the same level as "if everyone thinks of the doctor at the same time...."

no...

no nothing was quite as bad as that

that was truly the lowest point doctor who ever reached i think...

i think everyone texting the doctor to call him over comes second

this is lower down the line... the is around the carrot juice, carrot juice, carrot juice... level

 

[holteman]

no...

no nothing was quite as bad as that

that was truly the lowest point doctor who ever reached i think...

i think everyone texting the doctor to call him over comes second

this is lower down the line... the is around the carrot juice, carrot juice, carrot juice... level

Yeah actually you''re right.....This is a tad annoying...

That made me want to rip my own eyes out

 

[Shippou-Sensei]

it was all going reasonably well too with a fucking batshit insane master you could really get behind so ok he was a bit grating but i could see it workign as a nice progrestion from the cool calm of delagardo to the unpredictable ainley (the telemovie master did not exist) to the really fucked simms

i could buy that and he did oh so make it enjoyable... a proper bad guy who was just out to make the doctors life a misery... and was a proper equal too

but no they just fucking shat all over the ending

 

[Shippou-Sensei]

actually his reappearence was a bit like that too

everyone turning into him was dumb... really fucking dumb.... but it was actually so hilarious i actually went with it.... it's just a pity it thought it was fucking starwars for the next episode

and why the flying fuck did they have to fuck up rassilion

 

[belboid]

you speak utter utter rubbish.

 

[ATOMIC SUPLEX]

you speak utter utter rubbish.

He speaks the truth.

 

[Stigmata]

Yup, just like when everyone thought about the Doctor and it influenced the physical universe enough for him to defeat the Master.

I didn't hate that as much as some people seem to. They'd established the Archangel Network in the previous episode as being some sort of planetwide psychic thingamajig so it wasn't a plot point that emerged from the blue.

 

[Shippou-Sensei]

you speak utter utter rubbish.

o rly?


i bet you liked the telemovie

 

[Lord Camomile]

I didn't hate that as much as some people seem to. They'd established the Archangel Network in the previous episode as being some sort of planetwide psychic thingamajig so it wasn't a plot point that emerged from the blue.

No, but it was shite all the same.

Another dissenting voice, although it's one of the comments that is quite interesting:

I do miss The Doctor as a scientist. It’s part of what made ME a scientist.

 

[Shippou-Sensei]

I didn't hate that as much as some people seem to. They'd established the Archangel Network in the previous episode as being some sort of planetwide psychic thingamajig so it wasn't a plot point that emerged from the blue.

it wasn't out of the blue it was dumb and mawkish though especially with that wierd aging shit and the reversing of it


now if the doctor was just say trapped what they could have done is shown people hacking into the archangel network and maybe hooking it up to the tardis telepathic circuits and then using the doctors link with the tardis along with the will of the people (no need to go over the top licking the doctors ring piece with tales of his glory.... just straight forward use everyones want for change) he trigers the tqardis to dematerialise and rematerialise around him alowing him to do whatever


only minor plot changes but a much more satifying way of hadling it

instead we have really urrrgghh moments about spreading the ledgend of the doctor and peoples belief in him ..... a plot element used more than once which i really hated which then makes him magically transform and beat the master.... urghh ... no wit no skill not even reversing the polarity of the nutron flow... just using a fucking carebear stare

 

[Detroit City]

that episode with the two realities and the "dream lord" was pretty lame

 

[Iguana]

instead we have really urrrgghh moments about spreading the ledgend of the doctor and peoples belief in him ..... a plot element used more than once which i really hated which then makes him magically transform and beat the master.... urghh ... no wit no skill not even reversing the polarity of the nutron flow... just using a fucking carebear stare

Don't forget the reset button.