Negating the effectiveness of water cannon.

[DaveCinzano]

Small children in vantage points plus paint loaded water pistol things.

From the same photo set on the same peaceful demonstration in Stuttgart:

Spoiler: Pic showing particularly unpleasant result of police attack with water cannon, gas & batons

 

[rekil]

Get them on the way from whereever they'll be based. Provoke an existential crisis amongst the operators by switching roadsigns with this sort of thing.

 

[Mr.Bishie]

Safety goggles are a MUST have in your back pack.

 

[rekil]

From the same photo set on the same peaceful demonstration in Stuttgart:

Pic showing particularly unpleasant result of police attack with water cannon, gas & batons

Yup, 66 year old man.

Egon Georg Weidle, senior doctor at Stuttgart’s Katharinen Hospital, diagnosed Wagner with “serious eye injuries.” As well as suffering major bruising on both sides, Wagner’s eyelids were torn, and on one side, part of his orbital bone – which encases the eye – was fractured.

The retina on the same side also suffered suspected damage. The lenses of his eyes were damaged and will need to be replaced by artificial lenses. Wagner was “at the moment blind,” the doctor told Stern. He could not say whether his patient’s sight would ever be fully restored.

 

[stupid kid]

I can see the tactics here, but not the strategy. Defeating water cannons in order to....?

Not be hit by water cannons.

 

[A380]

A bit like this, only better.

I did have a drink that day. But it was other Torys that got rid of her, not street action...

 

[ymu]

I did have a drink that day. But it was other Torys that got rid of her, not street action...

Yeah, they just woke up one day and decided that the poll tax really wasn't on.

It wasn't just street action, it was mass non-payment. No one action will force this shower out, but many, many actions can.

 

[1%er]

A bit like this, only better.

What is Eric Sykes doing there

 

[ViolentPanda]

lol fuckin' terrible things, pigs.

I'm sure they were fine when they were first designed, back in the '50s, but they were fucking scarily crap by the late '70s-early '80s.

Just catching up, but hasn't May dismissed the use of water canon?

Not so much dismissed as said they have no plans to use them...

To be honest, bring what the fuck they want, we'll out number them.

And that is what they don't seem to quite get, isn't it? That all their prattling about "class war activists", "anarchist gangs" and trouble-makers" isn't working because they've not just pissed the students off with the education cuts, the EMA cuts and the tripling of tuition fees, they've pissed vast swathes of the rest of the public (the disabled, the families who're having tax credits reduced, those who'll be affected by housing benefit/LHA changes, those who'll be affected by local authority spending cuts...the list goes on), who're all intent on having their say too, and maybe having a pop at a cop, if one takes a swing at them first.

 

[ViolentPanda]

What is Eric Sykes doing there

They hired him to wank off into her eyes so that the old cunt could squeeze out a few tears to make herself look vaguely human.

 

[Bernie Gunther]

They hired him to wank off into her eyes so that the old cunt could squeeze out a few tears to make herself look vaguely human.

That's my supper fucked too now

 

[Mooncat]

I have no problems with water cannons

 

[Paulie Tandoori]

Carry loads of bubblebath?

i love you

 

[1%er]

They hired him to wank off into her eyes so that the old cunt could squeeze out a few tears to make herself look vaguely human.

Hired him! I've have done it for nothing apparently she had very nice ankles

Anyway back to ideas for negating water cannon, Industrial concentrated liquid soap is very cheap a few gallons of that may make things interesting, also soap powder if enough people take it with them. Superabsorbent polymers the stuff found in disposable nappies reacts well with water and red dye could also be good if you could get lots of it, it would make a right mess of the coppers uniforms if they followed after the water cannon slipping with all the soap etc.

If you want to make a big show and a very big point you may want to try something like Sodium it is a highly combustible element and the addition of water can make it explode, I think there are other elements that react like Sodium as well. Not sure how hard they are to get hold off in the UK, but you would sure be making a statement.

Disclaimer: I am not recommending that anyone use any of the products I have mentioned on this thread, I am not inciting anyone to do anything, I have just been thinking about the question asked in the OP it is all hypothetical

 

[Paulie Tandoori]

so you negate the effect of the water cannon by using sodium and causing a massive explosion which blows you up?

you haven't really thought this through have you?

 

[Fruitloop]

Be nice, it's a brilliant idea up until the bit where it blows you up.

 

[1%er]

so you negate the effect of the water cannon by using sodium and causing a massive explosion which blows you up?

you haven't really thought this through have you?

Who said anything about causing a massive explosion

 

[DotCommunist]

Science did.

 

[1%er]

Hahahahaha

I expected people to think about how to use it to negate water cannon, it is clear I am not dealing with suicide boomers here

I am sure that one or two people here will be able to workout how to use it to best effect

 

[ViolentPanda]

Hired him! I've have done it for nothing apparently she had very nice ankles

Anyway back to ideas for negating water cannon, Industrial concentrated liquid soap is very cheap a few gallons of that may make things interesting, also soap powder if enough people take it with them. Superabsorbent polymers the stuff found in disposable nappies reacts well with water and red dye could also be good if you could get lots of it, it would make a right mess of the coppers uniforms if they followed after the water cannon slipping with all the soap etc.

If you want to make a big show and a very big point you may want to try something like Sodium it is a highly combustible element and the addition of water can make it explode, I think there are other elements that react like Sodium as well. Not sure how hard they are to get hold off in the UK, but you would sure be making a statement.

Disclaimer: I am not recommending that anyone use any of the products I have mentioned on this thread, I am not inciting anyone to do anything, I have just been thinking about the question asked in the OP it is all hypothetical

Problem with sodium is that on contact with water it "burns" at a very hot temperature, hot enough to eat through flesh quite quickly, so dangerous for all parties.

 

[Paulie Tandoori]

Hahahahaha

I expected people to think about how to use it to negate water cannon, it is clear I am not dealing with suicide boomers here

I am sure that one or two people here will be able to workout how to use it to best effect

what's a suicide boomer?

 

[ViolentPanda]

Be nice, it's a brilliant idea up until the bit where it blows you up.

Yep. Thermite charges to incapacitate the water cannon are a good idea up until they burn anyone less than an arm's-length away when they ignite, too.

 

[1%er]

what's a suicide boomer?

someone born in the baby boom who gave it all up

 

[ViolentPanda]

Hahahahaha

I expected people to think about how to use it to negate water cannon, it is clear I am not dealing with suicide boomers here

I am sure that one or two people here will be able to workout how to use it to best effect

It's hard to handle, can start gassing off at levels of atmospheric humidity, and needs careful management. There is no "best effect"!

 

[ViolentPanda]

what's a suicide boomer?

A car bomber with a decent ICE system, innit.

 

[Spymaster]

Water cannon are pretty much an armoured car, so they're prone to the same tricks that can be used on them. There are almost always smoke/gas tubes for releasing canisters from inside the vehicle, so the potato trick works (was done in the early days to the British army in Derry with alarming regularity), as it does up the exhaust pipes.

Does the spud up the exhaust pipe work though?

When they did it on Mythbusters it jest got blown out by the engine.

 

[1%er]

Where is your commitment?

You should all be out now looking to buy or steal some of these reactive metals and experimenting with them to see how small a piece makes an effective bang and flash, then 'nicking some thermos flasks so you can take it to the demo without it getting wet.

What you lot need is a leader

 

[ViolentPanda]

Does the spud up the exhaust pipe work though?

It depends how tight the fit is, which is why I prefer the idea of expanding foam.

When they did it on Mythbusters it jest got blown out by the engine.

I saw that one, but they revved the engine, didn't they (rapidly increased gas pressure = spud-gun effect)? An idling engine (say at lights, or stationary so it can super-soak you) should just choke up (at least it did the half dozen times I tried it on various mates ).

 

[ViolentPanda]

Where is your commitment?

You should all be out now looking to buy or steal some of these reactive metals and experimenting with them to see how small a piece makes an effective bang and flash, then 'nicking some thermos flasks so you can take it to the demo without it getting wet.

What you lot need is a leader

That's fine by me, just as long as it's the supreme commander who carries and handles the hazmat!

 

[8den]

I'm sorry "thermite charges"? Sodium against water cannon? It's like a bunch of BB's with delusions of being McGuvyer competing to see who can get the best Darwin award.