Negating the effectiveness of water cannon.

[Spymaster]

It depends how tight the fit is, which is why I prefer the idea of expanding foam.

I saw that one, but they revved the engine, didn't they (rapidly increased gas pressure = spud-gun effect)? An idling engine (say at lights, or stationary so it can super-soak you) should just choke up (at least it did the half dozen times I tried it on various mates ).

I don't think I've ever tried it, which is quite amazing given that it's one of those rite of passage things.

I will remedy this and report back.

 

[1%er]

I'm sorry "thermite charges"? Sodium against water cannon? It's like a bunch of BB's with delusions of being McGuvyer competing to see who can get the best Darwin award.

McGuvyer would make a airplane from bamboo and sheets then fly over the water cannon with a thingamajig made from recycled fridges that would freeze the water before it left the cannon.

 

[ViolentPanda]

I'm sorry "thermite charges"? Sodium against water cannon? It's like a bunch of BB's with delusions of being McGuvyer competing to see who can get the best Darwin award.

If you've bothered to read my post about thermite charges, you should have been able to detect the less than subtle streak of sarcasm running through it.

 

[ViolentPanda]

I don't think I've ever tried it, which is quite amazing given that it's one of those rite of passage things.

I will remedy this and report back.

Do not blame me when Kris does her nut because she thinks she's blown up the car's engine!







E2A: Hot exhaust pipe is better. if the pipe is cold, it expands around the spud-plug as it warms, enough to break the "seal", anyway.

 

[ViolentPanda]

McGuvyer would make a airplane from bamboo and sheets then fly over the water cannon with a thingamajig made from recycled fridges that would freeze the water before it left the cannon.

There's no way MacGyver would recycle harmful CFCs from fridges!!

Take it back!!

 

[8den]

If you've bothered to read my post about thermite charges, you should have been able to detect the less than subtle streak of sarcasm running through it.

Sorry VP.

I skimmed the thread, the very concept of the thread is ludicrous, you don't deal with watercannons, and a set of water proofs is going to do you about as much good as as a wet suit jumping over Niagara Falls.

 

[likesfish]

not being where they want to use the water cannon probably the best idea
or having lots of minions who are quite happy to charge it till it runs out of water

 

[DrRingDing]

Sorry VP.

I skimmed the thread, the very concept of the thread is ludicrous, you don't deal with watercannons, and a set of water proofs is going to do you about as much good as as a wet suit jumping over Niagara Falls.

Water canons, and their use, have several weaknesses that we can exploit. The point about the waterproof is not to deflect a full on jet but the spray. Water canons produce a lot of spray that will soak on lookers.

....being wet for hours in winter is not fun. A warm anarchist is a happy anarchist.

 

[Bakunin]

or having lots of minions who are quite happy to charge it till it runs out of water

I always thought, however unlikely it might once have seemed, that Swappies might one day be useful for something.

 

[1%er]

There's no way MacGyver would recycle harmful CFCs from fridges!!

Take it back!!

Please don't tell me he has gone all green and environmentally friendly

IIRC he used Sodium to blow a hold in the wall to escape from somewhere, but mythbusters showed it wouldn't work

 

[Corax]

Has shitloads of caesium been suggested?

 

[Prince Rhyus]

See, back in my day we watched cartoons where a box of drawing pins had the required effect of stopping traffic - except chuggaboom from wacky races who could tiptoe in between them

 

[paolo]

Has shitloads of caesium been suggested?

Not yet. We're still working our way round the periodic table.

 

[Corax]

Not yet. We're still working our way round the periodic table.

Caesium's definitely the way to go. You should listen to me; I did GCSE science.

 

[Maurice Picarda]

In that case, could you make a case for electrolysis? No good spraying demonstrators with water if they point electric wands at it and separate the stuff into oxygen and hydrogen.

 

[Corax]

In that case, could you make a case for electrolysis? No good spraying demonstrators with water if they point electric wands at it and separate the stuff into oxygen and hydrogen.

It could be tried, but it might generate a negative disruptive tide on people's chi and perplex their auras. I'd suggest that we try a homeopathic counter-cannon measure first.

 

[Louis MacNeice]

It could be tried, but it might generate a negative disruptive tide on people's chi and perplex their auras. I'd suggest that we try a homeopathic counter-cannon measure first.

Diluted water?

Louis MacNeice

 

[ViolentPanda]

Sorry VP.

I skimmed the thread...

No problem.

...the very concept of the thread is ludicrous, you don't deal with watercannons...

What is meant by "deal with", though?
We're talking about immobilisation, mostly, which can be something as simple as compromising the driver's ability to see clearly through his windscreen, or something as complex as TopCat's picture of a water cannon covered in tar and ignited.
I still reckon that expanding foam sprayed up the exhaust pipe is a goer, too.

....and a set of water proofs is going to do you about as much good as as a wet suit jumping over Niagara Falls.

To be fair, whether a set of waterproofs do you any good depends on the type of water cannon, and the rate it's pumping at (they have variable flow control).

 

[ViolentPanda]

Please don't tell me he has gone all green and environmentally friendly

MacGyver was well green, he recycled loads of old rubbish into weapons to fight the man, man!

IIRC he used Sodium to blow a hold in the wall to escape from somewhere, but mythbusters showed it wouldn't work

Mythbusters can be real killjoys, the bastards!

 

[ViolentPanda]

Has shitloads of caesium been suggested?

I'd prefer Thallium, preferably in the coppers' tea and coffee.

 

[AKA pseudonym]

Water canons hit bad when they get a direct hit aprox 50 metres...
thing is its like a fire hose.. if u may be cute enough it aint gonna touch you... there are rumours they are adding dye to identify people...
They tried it with us in 60's n America but there are ways around everything.... I cant see John Hume, noble prize winner, endorsing...
The 6 counties was the playground for these tactics.... trust me there are enough Paddy's to educate.. they have stopped using them as we know how to stop them allegedly
Ive seen enough of these stupid immobile weapons, brought to a stand still......

 

[nick h.]

we know how to stop them

Well???

 

[8den]

No problem.

What is meant by "deal with", though?
We're talking about immobilisation, mostly, which can be something as simple as compromising the driver's ability to see clearly through his windscreen, or something as complex as TopCat's picture of a water cannon covered in tar and ignited.
I still reckon that expanding foam sprayed up the exhaust pipe is a goer, too.

No it's not the the exhaust pipe and fumes will simply be too hot for any foam to set.

And tar paint etc....It's got a friggin water cannon, nothing you throw at it will stick!

 

[free spirit]

I got an offer to borrow a load of fire brigade hoses before the G8 protests in scotland to create our own water cannon to defend the camp with... never actually got chance to find out if the offer was serious or not.

In other totally unrelated news, there are fire hydrants all over london, and keys can be hired from HSS as can hoses, and most office blocks have fire hoses fitted as standard usually on the stair landings.

 

[Bakunin]

I'd prefer Thallium, preferably in the coppers' tea and coffee.

I'd go for either strychnine or brucine, personally. Both are bitter alkaloids found in the 'strychnos nux vomica' plant and can be guaranteed to offer the slowest and most agonising death imaginable.

 

[Corax]

there are rumours they are adding dye to identify people...

How does that work?

"You've got dye on you! You were at that protest!"

"Yes?"

"Erm...."

 

[Mr.Bishie]

lol

 

[ViolentPanda]

No it's not the the exhaust pipe and fumes will simply be too hot for any foam to set.

You've just destroyed my dreams, man. My dreams!

And tar paint etc....It's got a friggin water cannon, nothing you throw at it will stick!

Does a water cannon miraculously spray itself at high enough pressure to stop anything sticky from adhering?

 

[ViolentPanda]

How does that work?

"You've got dye on you! You were at that protest!"

"Yes?"

"Erm...."

There have supposedly been talks between the OB and the marketers of "SmartWater", which has a unique chemical marker in it, which can be used to identify people who've been sprayed with it. It's not a dye.

The point of it is that if you criminalise the act of going on a protest (as can already happen), then being able to identify those that attended would mean, ipso facto, that you were identifying "criminals".

Fucking pathetic, isn't it?

 

[Corax]

You can be prosecuted for 'being at a protest'? WTF? Since when?