More railways.. (model railway)

[beesonthewhatnow]

Yeah, I'm not suggesting you change your layout, just curious as to why the original was laid out in that way.

Lots of real life track layouts seem odd and confusing because, well, they were. Often done bit by bit with various parts being added at later dates. It was often said that the further away you got from the inspectors in London the more "interesting" things got. The Great Eastern railway is particular was famous for having a somewhat haphazard approach to things

My dad is currently building a P4 layout, based on a GE branch line terminus. There are sections of it that are ridiculously complicated for a tiny line that would have seen little traffic (double slip to half scissors crossing on a curve with part of a 3 way turnout overlaid on one end of it anyone?). I'd assumed he'd used a large dose of modellers license as part of the him enjoying the technical challenge of building it (all from scratch), until he showed me a photo of the real thing and he'd actually had to simplify one section as it would "have sent me mad trying to wire it up"

 

[Mumbles274]

Lots of real life track layouts seem odd and confusing because, well, they were. Often done bit by bit with various parts being added at later dates. It was often said that the further away you got from the inspectors in London the more "interesting" things got. The Great Eastern railway is particular was famous for having a somewhat haphazard approach to things

My dad is currently building a P4 layout, based on a GE branch line terminus. There are sections of it that are ridiculously complicated for a tiny line that would have seen little traffic (double slip to half scissors crossing on a curve with part of a 3 way turnout overlaid on one end of it anyone?). I'd assumed he'd used a large dose of modellers license as part of the him enjoying the technical challenge of building it (all from scratch), until he showed me a photo of the real thing and he'd actually had to simplify one section as it would "have sent me mad trying to wire it up"

Think you've mentioned his layout before. Have you posted any pics? Can't remember

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

Think you've mentioned his layout before. Have you posted any pics? Can't remember

I think I did, will see if I can dig any out.

It'll never be finished really, he enjoys the technical aspects of modelling rather than making scenery. All the track and pointwork is built by hand and he's built various locos from scratch as well, and also modifies commercial ones to run on P4. The latter usually means keeping the body and building a fully sprung and compensated chassis for them. The tolerances involved in doing P4 are insane, it's like watchmaking really.

 

[Mumbles274]

I think I did, will see if I can dig any out.

It'll never be finished really, he enjoys the technical aspects of modelling rather than making scenery. All the track and pointwork is built by hand and he's built various locos from scratch as well, and also modifies commercial ones to run on P4. The latter usually means keeping the body and building a fully sprung and compensated chassis for them. The tolerances involved in doing P4 are insane, it's like watchmaking really.

Yeah, I'm saving it for retirement!

 

[teuchter]

EM or P4 are worth it though (at least if someone else is doing the work), they do look loads better.

It's a shame that fundamentally wrong OO became established as the mainstream.

 

[teuchter]

Lots of real life track layouts seem odd and confusing because, well, they were. Often done bit by bit with various parts being added at later dates. It was often said that the further away you got from the inspectors in London the more "interesting" things got. The Great Eastern railway is particular was famous for having a somewhat haphazard approach to things

My dad is currently building a P4 layout, based on a GE branch line terminus. There are sections of it that are ridiculously complicated for a tiny line that would have seen little traffic (double slip to half scissors crossing on a curve with part of a 3 way turnout overlaid on one end of it anyone?). I'd assumed he'd used a large dose of modellers license as part of the him enjoying the technical challenge of building it (all from scratch), until he showed me a photo of the real thing and he'd actually had to simplify one section as it would "have sent me mad trying to wire it up"

It's sad to see trackwork now rationalised and taken too far the other way ... terminus stations where it's now impossible to run around.

Although, sometimes rationalised trackwork can be interesting. I always wondered why, on the West Highland line, trains stop on different sides of island platforms at different stations along the route. But apparently it's because there are sprung points at each end of the passing loop (removes the need for any control over those points) and the way they point is to do with where and in what direction any sidings within the station area are attached, so they can still be accessed without the train being messed up by the sprung points.

 

[MrSki]

 

[existentialist]

Wow, that's a reminder from history. I spent many, many Sunday afternoons watching - and envying - that setup, as a kid.

 

[Mumbles274]

"Mr Hart is not married"

 

[existentialist]

"Mr Hart is not married"

Yes, I was never quite sure about Mr Hart, and kept my distance. Not that I needed to particularly keep my distance, but I did. Bit of a grey area on the pervdar.

 

[Mumbles274]

Battle of Britain passing through Lydd

 

[editor]

Got to admire Rod's efforts here:

Sir Rod Stewart's amazing 100ft model railroad he spent 23 years creating

 

[Mumbles274]

My layout has been a bit hit and miss over the last few months. Due to winter rain and cold the old crap roof is at peak leakage. It has stalled any progress and meant one end has been moved to a dry section so no running trains for now. I'll put a couple of pics of the roof on. Currently running a book on when the ceiling will collapse. However I have had some thoughts about the marsh areas around the station. I've been thinking about roads/tracks and the variation that often is missing. The areas shown would be no more than grassy farm tracks, maybe some muddy areas at the intersection

Damp ceiling, already collapsed once



Farm tracks/drainage ditches/fields/crossing point.

 

[hash tag]

I am not sure of an underground of rocket based on the moon of Saturn, but hey, It's great that people like him exist.
At least he will have something to do if he self isolates

 

[editor]

Like this.....

Model Railway Festival Is Cancelled - Train Nerds Are Making It Happen On Twitter Instead

Railways modellers "well-practiced in self-isolation."

londonist.com

 

[DaveCinzano]

Got to admire Rod's efforts here:

Sir Rod Stewart's amazing 100ft model railroad he spent 23 years creating

Shame about the typos!

 

[editor]

Shame about the typos!

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Probably distracted by his tight pants.

 

[mx wcfc]

Seen this?

 

[teuchter]

Yeah, seems familiar, like I've seen it just very recently in a place very close to here.

But anyway, in my opinion the things hebuilds are not really model railways.

 

[hash tag]

So good it was posted twice

 

[Mumbles274]

I haven't done anything for ages and I can't think why now?

Except one of the main reasons is Lamb's son has been going through a crap time. He's only 18, first relationship breakdown and his dad is and always will be an abusive nasty horrible cunt. Poor lad had been really desperate and between his ex, her new partner (called him and taunted him about jumping onto the railway tracks) and his dad ( told him he is fucking stupid and he's had a harder life than him). It seems getting him to do papier mache, and then learn how to scratch build a bridge is a perfect way to remedy that. I'm gonna have to get him to build some other things too.

 

[Mumbles274]

Bridges are coming along. Lamb-son pretty much made them himself. Getting close to them being bedded in and looking part of the scene

 

[Mumbles274]

 

[Mumbles274]

A longer scene

 

[hash tag]

Wow, impressive. Wouldn't even get that in my place

 

[Mumbles274]

Wow, impressive. Wouldn't even get that in my place

Theoretically it 'fits' in our house. This is untried and untested and as you can imagine, I doubt I will ever test this theory. The joys of a small single garage however make a much better home for it

 

[hash tag]

I hate to think how much room we have, maybe in the region of 800 square foot...lots of books, CDs, DVDs.
Garage you say, ours is communal from where I and others have had stuff stolen and/or damaged
Mind you, if you could use our garage, it would be amazing

 

[StoneRoad]

Mumbles274 - that's going to be impressive, you can keep lambson busy for quite a while there.
I know my bro (who works for a TOC) also does railway models to relax / keep himself occupied.
[for me, I work on carriages & waggons and at 12" to the foot scale, although one of mine was at Warley MRS a few years ago - my relaxations are gardening and reading]

 

[Mumbles274]

Mumbles274 - that's going to be impressive, you can keep lambson busy for quite a while there.
I know my bro (who works for a TOC) also does railway models to relax / keep himself occupied.
[for me, I work on carriages & waggons and at 12" to the foot scale, although one of mine was at Warley MRS a few years ago - my relaxations are gardening and reading]

Thanks. It's also only 12'x2' from a scenic point of view, so technically a small layout. Def got lots of other jobs for him, with a little training lol

 

[Mumbles274]

Just done a bit more papier mache with the Lambson. Getting there with the landscape stuff