Missing Milly Dowler's voicemail "hacked by News of the World"

[smokedout]

Good piece from Beyond Clicktivism..... Hit Them Where It Hurts

hmmm

 

[TheHoodedClaw]

Imagine it'll be in iPlayer before too long.

Available here now

http://www.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/series/victoriad

 

[krtek a houby]

Yes but the fact that messages had been deleted surely led the police to believe that Milly was still alive? So therefore the hacking definitely misled the investigation into her disappearance.

This. I sincerely hope that rag folds forever.

 

[likesfish]

maybe adding the suggestion why not advertise in the Sunday Mirror instead would rub salt into the wounds.
mirrors not much better

 

[Ted Striker]

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/...-world-pervert-lives-next-door'-201107054034/

 

[Ted Striker]

Do any of the hack periods co-incide with the Maddie investigation?

 

[MellySingsDoom]

Just spotted on the Graun site: "LATEST: Rebekah Brooks responds to Milly Dowler phone hacking: 'I am sickened that these events are alleged to have happened.' More details soon … "

What a fucking rotter....

 

[frogwoman]

What she means is she's sickened she's been caught.

 

[MellySingsDoom]

What she means is she's sickened she's been caught.

Sickened by having to answer damnfool questions on this from uppity liberals who should know their place and know that Murdoch is right and that's all there is to it.

Meanwhile she peruses her Sarah Payne scrapbook and says to herself, "Yes, I was right all along."

 

[8den]

IANAL but surely destroying evidence is a serious crime? We know that important data was destroyed and surely it would count as evidence? It has to be because once any evidence has been destroyed it cannot be exactly defined as it has been destroyed, e.g. someone burns some clothes of a murderer. The clothes are no longer available so cannot be used for the retrieval of DNA and other evidence, but the fact that the ashes were found and that the neighbours saw then being burned = destroying evidence.

As I said IANAL so maybe this is wrong?

Just thinking aloud

Yes but can you prove such and such a journalist deleted said message?

 

[DrRingDing]

The scowling face of Wade on the front page of The Independent made me smile today.

 

[killer b]

There is a significantly large pile of unsold Suns in the Tulse Hill Co-op today

i noticed the pile of suns looked pretty big at the spar this lunch too - i wonder if it's just that we were looking today, and the pile is usually that big?

 

[taffboy gwyrdd]

"we are determined to get to the bottom of this" = "So we can do the best damage limitation job possible"

 

[Fingers]

Brooks' email to her staff last this morning

Rebekah Brooks says it is 'inconceivable' she knew of Milly Dowler phone hacking
News International chief executive determined to lead newspaper group despite calls for her to resign

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guardian.co.uk, Tuesday 5 July 2011 13.12 BST
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Rebekah Brooks has come under mounting pressure to resign over the News of the World phone-hacking scandal. Photograph: Paul Grover /Rex Features
Rebekah Brooks has told employees it is "inconceivable" she knew that the News of the World hacked into Milly Dowler's mobile phone.

The News International chief executive said she was "sickened" by the events, but insisted she was "determined to lead the company" – despite calls for her to resign.

Ed Miliband said Brooks should "consider her position" and has called for a public inquiry after the Guardian revealed the News of the World illegally accessed Dowler's voicemail messages under Brooks's editorship. David Cameron earlier described the hacking as a "truly dreadful act" and urged police to "pursue this in the most vigorous way".

Brooks, who was editing the paper at the time, emailed employees today to tell them: "It is inconceivable that I knew or worse, sanctioned these appalling allegations. I am aware of the speculation about my position. Therefore it is important you all know that as chief executive, I am determined to lead the company to ensure we do the right thing and resolve these serious issues."

Brooks said she has written to Milly Dowler's parents on Tuesday morning "to assure them News International will vigorously pursue the truth and that they will be the first to be informed of the outcome of our investigation".

She added: "I am sickened that these events are alleged to have happened. Not just because I was editor of the News of the World at the time, but if the accusations are true, the devastating effect on Milly Dowler's family is unforgivable".

Senior executives at News International, including Brooks, discussed the Dowler revelations at a meeting with police this morning to talk about Scotland Yard's ongoing investigation into phone-hacking.

A senior source at the News of the World's owner said it was a pre-arranged meeting with officers from Operation Weeting, the Met's investigation into phone-hacking that began at the start of the year.

Brooks said in her email: "This morning, in our regular Operation Weeting meeting, we have offered the MPS our full co-operation to establish the veracity of these fresh allegations."

Miliband had earlier called for a public inquiry and said Brooks should "consider her conscience and consider her position", as pressure mounts on the chief executive.

Miliband said the latest revelations in the News of the World phone-hacking saga were a "stain" on news reporting in the country. He added that the hacking "represents one of the darkest days in British journalism".

Earlier Cameron, currently in Afghanistan, said of the Guardian's revelation that the News of the World illegally targeted Milly Dowler and her family: "If they are true this is a truly dreadful act and a truly dreadful situation. What I've read in the papers is quite shocking, that someone could do this knowing that the police were trying to find this person and find out what happened.

"There is a police investigation into hacking allegations ... they should investigate this without any fear, without any favour, without any worry about where the evidence should lead them.

"They should pursue this in the most vigorous way that they can in order to get to the truth of what happened. That is the absolute priority as a police investigation."

The home secretary, Theresa May, said news of the hacking was "truly shocking", and said it "should be investigated with great vigour".

Keith Vaz told the BBC the home affairs select committee would ask May whether there is any evidence of hacking in the Soham murders or any other cases.

The Metropolitan police commissioner, Sir Paul Stephenson, whose force is accused of not investigating phone hacking properly in the first place, said on Tuesday: "My heart goes out to the Dowler family."

He told BBC London: "I have to be very careful to say nothing that could prejudice our live investigation but if it is proved to be true, then irrespective of the legality or illegality of it, I'm not sure there is anyone who wouldn't be appalled and repulsed by such behaviour."

Former deputy prime minister Lord Prescott said on Twitter that he would write to the culture secretary, Jeremy Hunt, demanding he block News Corp's bid to take full control of pay-TV company BSkyB following the revelations about Dowler.

However, John Whittingdale, the chairman of the culture, media and sport select committee, told BBC Radio 4's Today programme that phone hacking at the News of the World should not taint the rest of Rupert Murdoch's empire. "You cannot necessarily condemn the entire of News Corp just because of the actions of some individuals in another part of the organisation," he said.

"News International is a part of News Corp but it's a different part. News Corp is a global enterprise and I don't think one should condemn the entire organisation because something very clearly was going wrong in the News of the World."

Detectives from Operation Weeting are believed to have found evidence of the targeting of the Dowlers in a collection of 11,000 pages of notes kept by Glenn Mulcaire, the private investigator jailed for phone hacking on behalf of the News of the World.

In the past four weeks, Met officers have approached Surrey police and taken formal statements from some of those involved in the original inquiry, who were concerned about how News of the World journalists intercepted – and deleted – the voicemail messages of Milly Dowler.

The messages were deleted by journalists in the first few days after Milly's disappearance to create space for more messages. As a result friends and relatives of Milly concluded wrongly she might still be alive. Police also feared evidence may have been destroyed.

 

[magneze]

Andrew Neil's grilling of the chair of the PCC this lunchtime was good, showed up the industry and the pathetic nature of the "regulator".

 

[Fingers]

i noticed the pile of suns looked pretty big at the spar this lunch too - i wonder if it's just that we were looking today, and the pile is usually that big?

Possible but this was at 11am and there were only a handful of the other papers left

 

[Fingers]

So this could render Bellfield's trial a mistrial so the Dowlers may have to go through it all again. This is pure mentalness. Someone needs to do some serious bird for this.

 

[MellySingsDoom]

^^^ In the infamous Lester Bangs vs Lou Reed interview, Bangs gets riled by Reed's half-hearted, sneery banter and yells, "You lying sack of shit!"

That came to reason after reading the above quoted thingy, somehow...

 

[killer b]

So this could render Bellfield's trial a mistrial so the Dowlers may have to go through it all again.

i don't believe that for a second. that's someone stirring...

 

[Fingers]

i don't believe that for a second. that's someone stirring...

Nope, Bellfield's lawyer has just done an interview on LBC and he said although it is early days, it is entirely possible

 

[taffboy gwyrdd]

A Bellfield retrial would be ideal for The Scum in the absence of any other kids being murdered, they could drool over dad's porn videos again for their twisted "readers".

 

[Barking_Mad]

Guardian ticker:

News International says Rebekah Brooks was not in today's meeting with Met detectives. More details soon …

 

[Barking_Mad]

the use of the word "meeting" is somewhat curious.

 

[killer b]

Nope, Bellfield's lawyer has just done an interview on LBC and he said although it is early days, it is entirely possible

as i said, someone stirring.

 

[MellySingsDoom]

Now Colin Stagg may well have been done over by this too, if what he's been led to believe by Plod on this is confirmed - see here

 

[Barking_Mad]

lol

As the News of the World fired a salvo of 27 cruise missiles through the bottom of the barrel, for the first time in living memory the Guardian was backed by people who are not pathetically self-conscious about every single fucking thing they say or do.

Helen Archer, a housewife from Stevenage, said: "If I start being wrong about everything all the time then I vow to you, as God is my witness, someone is going to pay for this.

"One can only hope that Holloway's least seductive bull-dykes are now running their eye over Rebekah Brooks and oiling their steam-powered love truncheons."

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/...ople-to-agree-with-the-guardian-201107054035/

 

[agricola]

as i said, someone stirring.

Not really - given the nature of the case against Bellfield, anything that would affect the timeline of Milly's disappearance might be of relevance to any defence, especially if it wasnt disclosed to them.

 

[Fingers]

as i said, someone stirring.

You can't see the possibility of it happening? Even if evidence has been tampered with by NOTW?

 

[Santino]

Robert Peston on Twitter:

News Int execs tell me they fear there may have been worse examples of NOTW hacking than that of Milly Dowler's phone. The mind reels

 

[gabi]

Robert Peston on Twitter:

News Int execs tell me they fear there may have been worse examples of NOTW hacking than that of Milly Dowler's phone. The mind reels

Maddy!