Missing Milly Dowler's voicemail "hacked by News of the World"

[Kaka Tim]

Anyone know how NewsCorp / News internationals shares are doing this morning?

How far do they have to fall before Brooks goes I wonder.

 

[claphamboy]

Not good enough. Nobody will get behind a rebrand.

Murdoch has to be taught a lesson once & for all. The entire family does.

I would like that to be true, but I doubt it, ATM The Sun is detached from the NOTW stuff, so a re-brand to the Sun on Sunday is likely to work.

Although, that could all change if, or when, the shit hits the Sun.

 

[strung out]

these boycotts for NI products like sky, 20thC Fox, HC etc are all very laudable, and if you go ahead and do it, then fair play to you, but it all strikes me as being way too ambitious, too soon, for now. as badgers says, bringing down the whole empire would be the jewel in the crown but all that these calls for binning off sky+ do, is serve to alienate the majority of the people who will actually be needed as part of a longer term fight against this corporation (and others).

 

[DrRingDing]

How's this being reported in yanky land?

 

[Geri]

and stop watching 20th century fox films, and the simpsons, oh and harper collins books are out too (list of authors you can't read anymore)

Lulu

 

[strung out]

Lulu

to think stephen fry would be involved in this whole affair too

 

[marty21]

How's this being reported in yanky land?

I doubt Fox News are giving it much coverage tbh


I might have to boycott my Dad if this goes on

 

[laptop]

Anyone know how NewsCorp / News internationals shares are doing this morning?

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/351c656a-a7fa-11e0-afc2-00144feabdc0.html#ixzz1RPnvnnA0

Shares in News Corp fell 3.6 per cent in New York as shareholders feared that the political firestorm could jeopardise the group’s chances of taking full control of its satellite broadcaster, British Sky Broadcasting. BSkyB shares continued to fall on Thursday. By mid-morning they were down another 1.5 per cent at 814.5p, taking the losses for the week to more than 4 per cent.

Looking for a chart...

 

[Geri]

I might have to boycott my Dad if this goes on

My dad buys it too.

 

[DrRingDing]

How's this being reported in yanky land?

http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/europe/07/07/uk.phone.hacking.brand/

Good good.

 

[ymu]

these boycotts for NI products like sky, 20thC Fox, HC etc are all very laudable, and if you go ahead and do it, then fair play to you, but it all strikes me as being way too ambitious, too soon, for now. as badgers says, bringing down the whole empire would be the jewel in the crown but all that these calls for binning off sky+ do, is serve to alienate the majority of the people who will actually be needed as part of a longer term fight against this corporation (and others).

You can get the Premiership much cheaper from Euro broadcasters, now Rupert's lost his case to prevent cross-border trade. You have to be a serious mug to be paying Sky still anyway.

 

[smokedout]

Yeah, BBC just reported that Sainsbury's has pulled out too, the boycott is starting to snowball nicely.

This particular one is going to leave Tesco, Asda & Morrisons looking a bit stupid.

Sunday Mail's ad revenue must be going through the roof

 

[laptop]

A chart:

(C) Financial Times


The bounce in the last couple of hours is likely program trading, not political judgement.

 

[Kizmet]

They'll save the money and not just spend it on other papers. NotW has a quite hard to reach readership.

 

[bi0boy]

Looking for a chart...

Try the Wall Street Journal website.

 

[Kaka Tim]

I'm wondering about the Suns standing with its readers. With the likes of mudered kids and dead service personal's families phones being hacked and the story being massive on the TV news the Sun is all but ignoring it. But its exactly the sort of story they would usually be going mental over - OUTRAGE! DISGUSTING! OUR BOYS! HOLLY AND JESSICA! - surely their credibility with their readerships must be taking a major hit (not their 'credibility' with people who read the b/sheets).

The Times is in a sticky enough position but is now (belatedly) covering the story properly - but the Sun is the sister paper of the NOTW and is Murdochs flagship.

To a lesser extent the reluctance of the Mail and Express to go to town is also looking pretty embarassing for them.

Oh to be a fly on the wall at the Suns editorial meeting! If they cover it they are attacking themsleves. If they ignore it they look stupid. If they try to counter attack they are lining themselves up against the likes of the British Legion.

I think montgomery-burns murdoch should start giving interviews so as to win over hearts and minds with his charm, grace and humility.

 

[8115]

If Rebekah Brookes loses her job I'll be quite tempted to go and have a pint. I doubt very much that it's going to happen. Doesn't she go round Cameron's for dinner or something?

 

[strung out]

You can get the Premiership much cheaper from Euro broadcasters, now Rupert's lost his case to prevent cross-border trade. You have to be a serious mug to be paying Sky still anyway.

well yes, but that's not really the point i was making.

anyway, the fact you can get it cheaper is beside the point. there are 10 million (ish) sky subscribers in the uk, and telling all of them they should cancel their sub is the worst kind of liberal finger wagging that will just result in a big fuck off from the majority of them, alienating them from any further action that would actually help to bring NI down. focussed boycotts progressing as they are, are fine for now. attempting anything bigger just yet, will be doomed to failure.

 

[likesfish]

Think the relatives of dead soldiers isn't really going to help matters.
The British Legion have dropped the notw help 4 heroes to follow shortly.
wouldn't want to be a war correspondent for News international in afghan at the mo or in colchester or any garrison town

 

[Kaka Tim]

Brooks is toast. And Murdoch has fucked up by rushing to defend her - he will have to eject her and end up looking stupid and guilty of - oh the irony - utterly missjudging the public mood.

 

[Kaka Tim]

How about a flash mob turning up at wapping and all doing this?

 

[QueenOfGoths]

well yes, but that's not really the point i was making.

anyway, the fact you can get it cheaper is beside the point. there are 10 million (ish) sky subscribers in the uk, and telling all of them they should cancel their sub is the worst kind of liberal finger wagging that will just result in a big fuck off from the majority of them, alienating them from any further action that would actually help to bring NI down. focussed boycotts progressing as they are, are fine for now. attempting anything bigger just yet, will be doomed to failure.

I think starting 'small' as it were or, as you say, focused, with a boycott of the NOTW and also pressure to stop the BskyB deal is a good way to go. Then, hopefully, ratchet things up to encompass more of NI as things progress.

 

[pk]

these boycotts for NI products like sky, 20thC Fox, HC etc are all very laudable, and if you go ahead and do it, then fair play to you, but it all strikes me as being way too ambitious, too soon, for now. as badgers says, bringing down the whole empire would be the jewel in the crown but all that these calls for binning off sky+ do, is serve to alienate the majority of the people who will actually be needed as part of a longer term fight against this corporation (and others).

Which is why it's best to pick at the already wounded NOTW and use the rotten leaves to begin infecting the larger tree.

 

[krtek a houby]

I'm wondering about the Suns standing with its readers. With the likes of mudered kids and dead service personal's families phones being hacked and the story being massive on the TV news the Sun is all but ignoring it. But its exactly the sort of story they would usually be going mental over - OUTRAGE! DISGUSTING! OUR BOYS! HOLLY AND JESSICA! - surely their credibility with their readerships must be taking a major hit (not their 'credibility' with people who read the b/sheets).

The Times is in a sticky enough position but is now (belatedly) covering the story properly - but the Sun is the sister paper of the NOTW and is Murdochs flagship.

To a lesser extent the reluctance of the Mail and Express to go to town is also looking pretty embarassing for them.

Oh to be a fly on the wall at the Suns editorial meeting! If they cover it they are attacking themsleves. If they ignore it they look stupid. If they try to counter attack they are lining themselves up against the likes of the British Legion.

I think montgomery-burns murdoch should start giving interviews so as to win over hearts and minds with his charm, grace and humility.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3682400/David-Cameron-slams-the-latest-phone-hacking-allegations-as-absolutely-disgusting-and-calls-for-inquiry.html

 

[strung out]

I think starting 'small' as it were or, as you say, focused, with a boycott of the NOTW and also pressure to stop the BskyB deal is a good way to go. Then, hopefully, ratchet things up to encompass more of NI as things progress.

Which is why it's best to pick at the already wounded NOTW and use the rotten leaves to begin infecting the larger tree.

yep to both of these

 

[pk]

to think stephen fry would be involved in this whole affair too

Use that to pressure him to make a stand.

 

[DarthSydodyas]

Was she the on Question Time refusing to apoligise for her papers mistake in listin an innocent man as a paedophile?

 

[pk]

This will end in a full page "We're Sorry" on the cover, and they'll hope to return to business as usual.

This can never be allowed to happen.

 

[Badgers]

USA Today - http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/2011-07-06-phone-hacking-murdoch_n.htm

 

[pk]

Brooks is toast. And Murdoch has fucked up by rushing to defend her - he will have to eject her and end up looking stupid and guilty of - oh the irony - utterly missjudging the public mood.

Sacking Brooks is not enough.

Shut them down, piece by piece.