Missing Milly Dowler's voicemail "hacked by News of the World"

[butchersapron]

Victims up to around 6000 now.

6000

 

[gentlegreen]

It's like the Stasi ...

Record everyone just in case.

What gets me is people's fascination for reading about all these minor slebs ..

 

[DexterTCN]

They've been conditioned that way.

 

[Santino]

Very few people think of themselves as obsessed with celebrities. It's a bit of a laugh. Other people may be obsessed, they just take an interest because other people are interested.

 

[killer b]

people just like reading entertaining stories ffs.

 

[butchersapron]

They've been conditioned that way.

Little better than animals.

 

[gentlegreen]

At least slebs used to have a bit of class in the old days ...

 

[ferrelhadley]

Sun jurno arrested

 

[Badgers]

Sun jurno arrested

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-15593767

Jamie Pyatt

 

[claphamboy]

So, finally it spreads to The Sun.

I guess it's too much to hope that shit explodes all over The Sun, and that ends up being closed down?

 

[Badgers]

Just been browsing his articles - http://journalisted.com/jamie-pyatt?allarticles=yes

 

[DexterTCN]

He s

Just been browsing his articles - http://journalisted.com/jamie-pyatt?allarticles=yes

He should be jailed for the articles, never mind other stuff.

 

[DexterTCN]

Also, a lot of those headlines imply he's obviously getting inf from bent police. Assuming you can say imply and obviously together.

Through him in jail. Next!

 

[two sheds]

I'm wondering how they're going to prosecute him without prosecuting any of the coppers he bribed.

 

[two sheds]

if he did it, of course, m'lud

 

[laptop]

Victims up to around 6000 now.

6000

6000 x £100,000 = £600 million

 

[laptop]

I'm wondering how they're going to prosecute him without prosecuting any of the coppers he bribed.

He is the sixth person arrested by detectives working on Operation Elveden, which was set up in July following allegations that police officers had received up to £130,000 over several years from the News of the World for information, including contact details for the royal family.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/nov/05/sun-journalist-bailed

Are all six News International hacks? BTW,

So far, 16 people have been arrested and bailed on allegations of phone hacking.

the six are specifically for police bribery.

 

[laptop]

Are all six News International hacks? ... The six are specifically for police bribery.

Hmm. The Operation Elveden tally so far seems to be:

• Jamie Pyatt
• Clive Goodman
• Andy Coulson
• Rebekah Brooks
• Stuart Kuttner
• Unnamed 63-year-old man

Who he, then?

 

[Santino]

Hope it spreads to The Times next.

 

[stavros]

If Sky can be implicated it'd be good too.

 

[butchersapron]

Seems a bit...cheap

Murdoch gave loyal lieutenant Rebekah Brooks £1.7m pay-off, car and office

sniff

 

[equationgirl]

It was on the BBC website that the police have proof of 5,800 people so far being phonehacked. Who the hell were News International hacking??

 

[killer b]

everyone they wrote a story on, pretty much.

 

[equationgirl]

That's still a shedload of people though.

 

[London_Calling]

We've known for somewhile that picking out people who may have been hacked - including the subject of this thread - is a simple headline generating game for parts of the media. Everyone slightly in the news at that moment was hacked, it was sytematic and very comprehensive. Pick any name from that time, they'll be on the list.

The thing about this particular name is it became the 'tipping point', or rather it allowed what wasn't a great concern to the public to snowball through the mainstream.

 

[laptop]

We've known for somewhile that picking out people who may have been hacked - including the subject of this thread - is a simple headline generating game for parts of the media.

Mediated by a press briefing from their lawyers at some appropriate moment after the Met get around to notifying the person whose phone has been hacked.

I seem to remember an estimate somewhere further up this thread that even with an expanded Operation Weeting team they were managing to call in fewer than 30 people a week, perhaps as few as 10 or 15. 5800/30 = 193 weeks = nearly 4 years to go

 

[London_Calling]

I presume Weeting is a tiered operation; they'll be a level - or cadre - of officers that goes through an almost routine meeting with those hacked - extracting very little but performing a necessary function, and also specific lines of inquiry targetted at different aspects of News International, the political class, the Met itself etc. Then more officers and lines of inquiry looking at particular players, not least those formerly arrested. Mammoth and massivley complicated.

 

[Dan U]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/nov/07/news-world-investigator-spy-lawyers

The News of the World hired a specialist private investigator to run covert surveillance on two of the lawyers representing phone-hacking victims as part of an operation to put pressure on them to stop their work.
The investigator secretly videoed Mark Lewis and Charlotte Harris as well as family members and associates. Evidence suggests this was part of an attempt to gather evidence for false smears about their private lives.
The News of the World also took specialist advice in an attempt to injunct Lewis to prevent him representing the victims of hacking and attempted to persuade one of his former clients to sue him.

 

[co-op]

The thing about this particular name is it became the 'tipping point', or rather it allowed what wasn't a great concern to the public to snowball through the mainstream.

I'm fascinated by this step though. Why did this suddenly turn into a massive story when (nearly) all the material facts - ie that NI were up to systematic phone-hacking - had been known for years?

 

[butchersapron]

Quite simply because milly dowler was not a celebrity so not seen as fair game, and they actually potentially impacted on either the search or her families reactions/emotions/etc to their childs murder.