Missing Milly Dowler's voicemail "hacked by News of the World"

[Bernie Gunther]

I doubt that there is a superinjunction - the Osborne / Rowe / Cocaine story has been doing the rounds for years, and commented upon (albeit obliquely) in Parliament.

Coulson 'was behind spin over Osborne, cocaine and dominatrix'

 

[Santino]

Full Independent story: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...eyes-dirty-work-for-fleet-street-2354360.html

"A former police officer has revealed how the authorities have known for more than eight years the vast scale on which media organisations employed private detectives to obtain the personal information of thousands of individuals, including the families and friends of murder victims.

The Independent has conducted a detailed examination of the files seized as part of Operation Motorman in 2003, and has been told by the lead investigator on that inquiry that his team was forbidden from interviewing journalists who were paying for criminal records checks, vehicle registration searches, and other illegal practices."

 

[teqniq]

About fucking time. Expecting the Met to properly investigate this is imo like asking turkeys to vote for Christmas:

Scotland Yard's incoming boss has called in an outside force to review the inquiry into phone hacking at the News of the World.
Commissioner Bernard Hogan-Howe considered it best practice to ask Durham Police to look at the Met's Operation Weeting due to the sensitive nature of the case, police said.
The revelation comes after Britain's top police officer said press and police relationships had "gone too far" as he called for an era of transparency and austerity

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/feedarticle/9848832

 

[two sheds]

About fucking time. Expecting the Met to properly investigate this is imo like asking turkeys to vote for Christmas:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/feedarticle/9848832

Hehe 'austerity', i.e. not accepting bribes any more.

 

[Santino]

Payback time for The Guardian: http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/sep/16/phone-hacking-met-court-order

The Metropolitan police are seeking a court order under the Official Secrets Act to make Guardian reporters disclose their confidential sources about the phone-hacking scandal.

In an unprecedented legal attack on journalists' sources, Scotland Yard officers claim the act, which has special powers usually aimed at espionage, could have been breached in July when reporters Amelia Hill and Nick Davies revealed the hacking of Milly Dowler's phone. They are demanding source information be handed over

 

[Dan U]

not so tough on crime, tough on the reporters of crime

(stolen from twitter)

 

[claphamboy]

Payback time for The Guardian: http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/sep/16/phone-hacking-met-court-order

But, they have a 'public interest' defence, so hopefully it will come to nothing.

 

[eoin_k]

The man from the Guardian just had to explain this to Eddie Marr on P.M. as if he was a five year old. Eddie asked him why they didn't help the police with their investigations into very serious allegations. The nice man from the guardian explained that the police already had all the documents they just wanted to find out who had leaked this to the guardian as they were embarrassed by the fact that they were being shown to have failed to act.

 

[eoin_k]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/sep/18/met-police-worrying-hugh-grant

I have to confess to having been initialy baffled by the headline of this story. Why should we care what some cheesey actor thinks about the Met trying to use the Official Secrets Act to pressurise the Guardian into revealing the source of the leak at Scotland Yard? But of course Hugh is a victim as well as an activist for the Hacked Off campaign. In my mind the story has gone so far beyond celebrity privacy that I couldn't see the link.

 

[killer b]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14975549

wonder what the truth/purpose of this leak is?

 

[DexterTCN]

The timing is probably to dilute the outcry over the official secrets action by the police.

 

[weltweit]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14975549

Phone hacking: Milly Dowler's family 'close to £2m settlement'

News International is close to agreeing a financial settlement with the family of murdered school girl Milly Dowler as a result of the phone hacking scandal, the BBC understands.

 

[Badgers]

£2m to the family and £1m personal donation to charity by Rupert Murdoch. Thet is a lot of money but oddly my first thought was 'is that all' when I heard the story on the radio. Not sure what I was measuring it against or what I thought it should be though.....

 

[Badgers]

The previous highest 'privacy' pay off before the NOTW phone hack was £60k for Max Mosley.

 

[weltweit]

The previous highest 'privacy' pay off before the NOTW phone hack was £60k for Max Mosley.

eh. my understanding was that Max Clifford was at least a million.

 

[Badgers]

eh. my understanding was that Max Clifford was at least a million.

Was Max before the NOTW?

 

[weltweit]

Was Max before the NOTW?

How do you mean? I am confused now!..

 

[Badgers]

How do you mean? I am confused now!..

As in NOTW phone/privacy/hack thing?

 

[weltweit]

As in NOTW phone/privacy/hack thing?

I thought the hacking of Clifford was just a part of the overall story..
Perhaps I am being thick - it does happen

 

[Badgers]

I thought the hacking of Clifford was just a part of the overall story..
Perhaps I am being thick - it does happen

I don't really keep track of these things.

Just surprised that Max Mosley achieved a £60k settlement in March 2008, Max Clifford achieved a £1m settlement in March 2010 and the Dowler family are likely to accept a settlement of £2m in October 2011.

I think that the intrusion on the Dowler family is far more brutal than the intrusion on Max 'consenting adults' Mosley but still it is a massive upward trend.

 

[weltweit]

Just surprised that Max Mosley achieved a £60k settlement in March 2008, Max Clifford achieved a £1m settlement in March 2010 and the Dowler family are likely to accept a settlement of £2m in October 2011.

I think that the intrusion on the Dowler family is far more brutal than the intrusion on Max 'consenting adults' Mosley but still it is a massive upward trend.

Indeed on the upward trend. I wonder how much News International is presently thinking this stink will cost them.

Incidentally the BBC is reporting that NI is to pay the Dowlers 2m and Rupert Murdock is also to make a 1m donation to charity. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14975549

 

[Badgers]

Indeed on the upward trend. I wonder how much News International is presently thinking this stink will cost them.

I heard on the BBC this morning they have allocated a £20m war chest to deal with this.

 

[butchersapron]

20 million? They'll be lucky.

 

[Santino]

Designating a certain column on a budget sheet as a 'war chest' must make some people's desk jobs that little bit more exciting.

 

[butchersapron]

They'll be appointing a tsar next.

 

[Badgers]

20 million? They'll be lucky.

I know, they are ploughing through it and not even heard about the McCann family yet.

 

[The Octagon]

I know, they are ploughing through it and not even heard about the McCann family yet.

Or Soham, assuming they roughly match the payouts, that's half the 'war chest' gone already.

 

[killer b]

Or Soham, assuming they roughly match the payouts, that's half the 'war chest' gone already.

just on payouts too. you can be sure the solicitors fees will be a substantial chunk on top of that...

 

[butchersapron]

They can afford to lose that amount (doubled tripled) without blinking, it's the easy access to influencing media legislation that's really going to hurt them. The ongoing profit making of sky etc basically.

 

[butchersapron]

Of interest:
Met's supergrass system called into question by dismissal of Gary Eaton

Scotland Yard's supergrass system has been called into question after a judge ruled a key criminal witness was a "pathological liar" for the second time in six months.

Full details of the handling of the man – a career criminal with psychiatric problems and convictions for bribing police, blackmail and firearms offences – and how tens of millions of pounds have been spent on cases based on his flawed evidence have been revealed for the first time. Gary Eaton was used in a failed prosecution of four men for the murder of the private detective Daniel Morgan.

Now a leading police officer has warned of the inherent dangers in using such so-called "assisting offenders". Chief Constable Jon Murphy, head of crime for the Association of Chief Police Officers (Acpo), says using supergrasses is akin to "dancing with the devil".