Missing Milly Dowler's voicemail "hacked by News of the World"

[magneze]

Maybe, never been one to really believe that any mention is automatically good.

 

[killer b]

Indeed, but that hasn't happened. Certain companies may become unpopular if they _don't_ pull their adverts. That's not saying that the ones that do are great. Bit of a derail really.

they got their names in the papers for doing an honourable thing - it would be naive to think that the stick of public displeasure is greater than the carrot of free advertising in this case imo.

not that it really matters. i'm just pleased to see notw being kicked in the goolies.

 

[Lord Camomile]

Maybe, never been one to really believe that any mention is automatically good.

Well, not absolutely any mention, but people talking about your company means people know about your company, and in this context it's in a generally positive light. So, it may not give any of them a massive boost, but Every Little Helps.

 

[killer b]

Maybe, never been one to really believe that any mention is automatically good.

this isn't 'any mention' though is it?

 

[Zabo]

Slight digression. Anybody else noticed the hack's buzz word of the moment? I keep hearing them say: 'provenance'. Now if the were writing for the Sun I'm sure they'd say 'origin'.

 

[strung out]

NI to claim brooks was on holiday at the time apparently

 

[butchersapron]

Indeed, but that hasn't happened. Certain companies may become unpopular if they _don't_ pull their adverts. That's not saying that the ones that do are great. Bit of a derail really.

Would being mentioned as being involved in the murder of jason swift just be a mention? Or are there different sports of mention?

 

[Santino]

Or are there different sports of mention?

There is test mention, and one-day mention. If you consider one-day mention to be a real sport at all.

 

[editor]

And the race to the most worthy gesture begins!

Can I just add that I've instructed the urban75 buyers to permanently withdraw all advertising from the NoTW and to go down to their offices and piss on every desk.

 

[marty21]

News Corp shares down 2.4% on opening in New York in response to new allegations of phone hacking at the News of the World (from @SkyNewsBreak on twitter)

if the share price continues to fall, would that make it cheaper for murdoch to buy the rest of the company?

it's all part of his fiendish plan to take over the world I tell you!

 

[stethoscope]

Had to smile at the Guardian posting up a 2009 letter from Brooks/Wade to the Commons Culture and Media committee.

"Rebekah Brooks's 2009 letter to John Whittingdale: 'The Guardian has misled the British public'"
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/interactive/2011/jul/06/rebekah-brooks-email

 

[agricola]

The most interesting thing about this whole sorry story is how the journos got hold of the phone numbers of the 7/7 victims and Milly Dowler and the Soham parents.

There's suggestions that the police sold the phone numbers.

Wrong again. It was a private detective called Steve Whittamore, at least in the case of Dowler.

 

[AKA pseudonym]

2.4% is not enough!!

aye...
but he just lost the Magners ad a/c too

poor hacks have 18 pages to fill now......
I wonder will Thatcher croak it??????

 

[Ivana Nap]

NI to claim brooks was on holiday at the time apparently

Funny how her holidays seem to have coincided with murder cases...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/06/andy-coulson-phone-hacking

 

[marty21]

someone on twitter (so it must be right ) just told me that BSKYB would only consider a take over deal if the offer is over 800 a share, share price is 827 and falling - so if it falls below 800, that could scupper the takeover deal

 

[dylans]

This is interesting

News International is planning to relieve the pressure on its beleaguered chief executive, Rebekah Brooks, by claiming she was on holiday when a mobile phone belonging to Milly Dowler was hacked into in 2002 by the News of the World, the paper she edited at the time.

The Guardian understands that the company has established that Brooks, News of the World editor from May 2000 until January 2003, was on holiday in Italy when the paper ran a story which referred to a message that had been left on the teenager's phone. The article, which was about a message left by an employment agency on the murdered schoolgirl's mobile, was published on 14 April 2002.

News International also believes Brooks was away in the two weeks following the murder of Holly Wells and Jessica Chapman in Soham. It is thought that mobile phones belonging to the parents of the two girls were targeted in the days following their death.

That is likely to focus attention on Andy Coulson, who was Brooks's deputy at the time, and would normally have edited the paper in her absence

Combined with the Times article this morning trying to refocus the issue on Coulson authorising the bribing of police, it seems there is an attempt to drop Coulson in the shit as a way of deflecting blame on Brookes. Now much as I want to see Brookes head on a spike over this, from the point of view of those of us who want this shit to stick to Cameron, the more Coulson is in the frame the better.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/06/andy-coulson-phone-hacking

 

[killer b]

she sure takes her holidays at convenient times.

 

[stethoscope]

"Not on my watch guv".

 

[taffboy gwyrdd]

was she away for the Dowler and 7/7 spying as well? Do all NI employees have such generous terms and conditions?

 

[MellySingsDoom]

This is interesting


Combined with the Times article this morning trying to refocus the issue on the bribing of police, it seems there is an attempt to drop Coulson in the shit as a way of deflecting blame on Brookes. Now much as I want to see Brookes head on a spike over this, from the point of view of those of us who want this shit to stick to Cameron, the more Coulson is in the frame the better.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/06/andy-coulson-phone-hacking

It'd certainly be interesting to have Coulson dragged before the Old Bailey beak and have him sing like the proverbial canary about Cameron, Brooks et al. Wonder if Cameron's "golden goodbye" to Coulson contains a "talk to no-one ever" about his past indiscretions chez Murdoch and Disco?

 

[magneze]

Would being mentioned as being involved in the murder of jason swift just be a mention? Or are there different sports of mention?

I think being involved in a murder is the lower end of the scale, at the higher end you get an advert saying "woo, X are great". So yes, if you like, there is a scale.

 

[magneze]

she sure takes her holidays at convenient times.

So we're to believe that the only phone hacking that happened on her watch was coincidentally when she was on holiday for two weeks.

Who the fuck is believing this shit?1?!

 

[Zabo]

Holidaying as a stand-in for The Muppets.

 

[stethoscope]

I've got fuck all time or sympathy with Rebekah Brooks, but can we fucking leave out the attacks on her looks. I thought/hoped this forum rose above this shit.

 

[agricola]

Combined with the Times article this morning trying to refocus the issue on the bribing of police, it seems there is an attempt to drop Coulson in the shit as a way of deflecting blame on Brookes. Now much as I want to see Brookes head on a spike over this, from the point of view of those of us who want this shit to stick to Cameron, the more Coulson is in the frame the better.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/06/andy-coulson-phone-hacking

Indeed. Sorry if its a repost, but there is a good breakdown of her letter at the New Stateman's website, which makes a similar point.

As for blaming Coulson - and everyone else it seems - it is a crazy strategy for her to attempt to pull off. For a start, the idea that she didnt know what was going on is bollocks, and obvious bollocks at that. Secondly, the temptation for those about to be blamed (Coulson and everyone else at the NOTW) to get their retaliation in first will be overwhelming, you would think that most (if not all) of them have their little stashes of insurance secreted away by now, ready for the moment when a ginger harpy points her bony finger of doom in their direction. Finally, she is not that important a person to Murdoch that he is going to sacrifice a large part of his business interests to keep her in a job.

 

[marty21]

I've got fuck all time or sympathy with Rebekah Brooks, but can we fucking leave out the attacks on her looks. I thought/hoped this forum rose above this shit.

I like red heads tbf

 

[MellySingsDoom]

On the hacking business, as an aside, I recently heard (though have not been able to corroborate yet - am looking into it) that a fash activist worked for 192.com at one point, and was doing a bit of the old leaking of anti-fascist details to "interested parties". Would it be beyond the realms of possibility for any other 192.com, 118 188 etc people to be corruptly handing over phone number etc details to journos for a bit of "pocket money" etc?

 

[DaveCinzano]

was she away for the Dowler and 7/7 spying as well? Do all NI employees have such generous terms and conditions?

From Vanity Fair (via The Independent):

When Charlie Brooks wakes up in the mornings in his barn in Oxfordshire, he likes nothing better than to fly to Venice from Oxford airport with his soon-to-be wife Rebekah Wade, the dazzling redhead editor of The Sun, for lunch at Harry's Bar. Later in the day, after shopping and sightseeing, the couple fly back to London for dinner at Wiltons in Jermyn Street.

A busy work life indeed.

 

[dylans]

The guardian have reported parts of Labour MP Tom Watson's speech. it's fucking devastating.

I want to inform the House of further evidence that suggests Rebekah Brooks knew about the unlawful tactics of News of the World as early as 2002, despite all her denials yesterday. Rebekah Brooks was present at a meeting with Scotland Yard when police officers pursing a murder investigation provided her with evidence that her newspaper was interfering with the pursuit of justice. They gave her the name of another executive at News International, Alex Marunchak. The meeting, which included Dick Fedorcio of the Metropolitan police, told her that News of the World staff were guilty of interference and party to using unlawful means to attempt to discredit a police officer and his wife. She was told of actions by people she paid to expose and discredit David Cook and his wife Jackie Haines so that Mr Cook would be prevented from completing an investigation into a murder. News International were paying people to interfer with police officers and were doing so on behalf of known criminals. We know now that News International had entered the criminal underworld

She cannot deny being present at this meeting when the actions of people she was paying were exposed. She cannot deny now being warned that under her auspices unlawful tactics were being used with the purpose of interfering with the pursuit of justice. She cannot deny that one of her staff, Alex Marunchak, was named and involved. She cannot deny either that she was told by the police that her own paper was using unlawful tactics, in this case to help one of her law-breaking investigators. This in my views shows her culpability goes beyond taking the blame as head of the organisation. It is about direct knowledge of unlawful behaviour.

And was Mr Marunchak dismissed. No. He was promoted.

 

[Zabo]

I've got fuck all time or sympathy with Rebekah Brooks, but can we fucking leave out the attacks on her looks. I thought/hoped this forum rose above this shit.

Evidently you would never have liked Spitting Image.