'Middle Class' it's basically just a construct isn't it...
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littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Didn't care to continue, that's all. It wasn't going anywhere and you seemed to be misunderstanding me.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
many of the pages were just people trying to get themselves class analysed and thereby missing the fucking point.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
And people handing out some class analysis pro bono.
TruXta
tired
Yeah, I got to page 3 and saw that starting and thought FUK DIS.
TruXta
tired
Fuck, I suddenly don't have time for this place much lately, and this is the welcome I get when I get back?
TruXta
tired
Lemon drizzle?
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
How old are you, Santino?
TruXta
tired
Upper MC old. Ish. With a chic shabby beard.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
bless you
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
I would actually like to know. I can tell him my age if he likes. Just like to put into perspective his attempts to show me what my life is about.
TruXta
tired
You're only 23, aren't you? Tiny Tino's well into his late 4os.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Actually I can't be arsed. But Santino, don't presume to try to tell me about my life.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Ah well.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Where would a self-employed window cleaner who rather likes his job fit into that analysis?
I don't think that works at all, tbh. I know an accountant who earns shit-loads - 80k or something like that - and hates his job, feels trapped (although enjoys the money) and is at the company's beck and call potentially seven days a week.
It's not as simple as you're making out. Many highly paid people in some ways have fewer freedoms in their work than people in low-paid work. I don't know how old you are, but I'm guessing that you're a few years younger than me. My attitude to my employment at the moment is that I have to keep working to pay the bills I have at the moment. Life was easier when I was probably your age and working in a badly paid job but with no debts or responsibilities.
Analyse class as a mass phenomenon that helps you to think about large-scale power relations by all means. But individualising it has no value.
I don't think that works at all, tbh. I know an accountant who earns shit-loads - 80k or something like that - and hates his job, feels trapped (although enjoys the money) and is at the company's beck and call potentially seven days a week.
It's not as simple as you're making out. Many highly paid people in some ways have fewer freedoms in their work than people in low-paid work. I don't know how old you are, but I'm guessing that you're a few years younger than me. My attitude to my employment at the moment is that I have to keep working to pay the bills I have at the moment. Life was easier when I was probably your age and working in a badly paid job but with no debts or responsibilities.
Analyse class as a mass phenomenon that helps you to think about large-scale power relations by all means. But individualising it has no value.
weltweit
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I agree that I don't often think about class in my everyday life. I am a product of my upbringing, as is everyone, and it both gives me opportunities and restricts me.
Most often I think about class when I come across someone who is so very obviously of a different class to me and it seems to impact somehow on us getting something done.
Most often I think about class when I come across someone who is so very obviously of a different class to me and it seems to impact somehow on us getting something done.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
That's disingenuous. You came back to have a dig at me hours after the fact.
What?
I was going to argue that people's attitude to employment - how easy it is to come by, how precarious their job is - is a way that class relations are directly and concretely THERE in the way that people think. In all honesty, my attitude to my job is that I just wandered into it, after registering at a temp agency ten years ago. But my income and status - as a middling administrator - is a result of my education and social capital. People without that could not just stumble into my job.
Everything else is in your mind.
I was going to argue that people's attitude to employment - how easy it is to come by, how precarious their job is - is a way that class relations are directly and concretely THERE in the way that people think. In all honesty, my attitude to my job is that I just wandered into it, after registering at a temp agency ten years ago. But my income and status - as a middling administrator - is a result of my education and social capital. People without that could not just stumble into my job.
Everything else is in your mind.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Don't make digs in future, then.
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