Michael Howard and Brixton
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Just got an email saying that this Sunday's Dimbleby programme will have Michael Howard on. They're looking for Brixton people for the audience. Contact details are:
Jonathan Dimbleby Programme
London Weekend Television
T: +44 (0) 20 7737 8759
F: +44 (0) 20 7928 5548
M: +44 (0)7932 964269
Jonathan Dimbleby Programme
London Weekend Television
T: +44 (0) 20 7737 8759
F: +44 (0) 20 7928 5548
M: +44 (0)7932 964269
Ironically, dickie birds tell me a certain erstwhile poster beginning with J might well be on that programme.pooka said:
Streathamite
ideological dogmatist
...and a certain current poster who adds an R to that other poster's initial, also is in with a shout.
Meejahdahling.
Meejahdahling.
Oh it'll be fantastic if you're both on.Red Jezza said:...and a certain current poster who adds an R to that other poster's initial, also is in with a shout.
Meejahdahling.
Streathamite
ideological dogmatist
sorry to disappoint yer folks - the charming young lady on the tel numbers above just said 'full up'. still I know JUST THE QUESTION to prime Justin with
You'd better PM me with it then.Red Jezza said:
Donna Ferentes
jubliado
Well, I didn't get on, I'm afraid - I was in the audience but didn't get the chance to speak. I think they had a whole row of Brixton residents queueing up to rubbish Howard but unfortunately somebody called Rachel Heywood, from the Brixton Area Forum, wittered on at great length in a contribution whose duration was inversely proportionate to its content, and that left sod all time for everybody else.
Personally I shall give watching it a miss. Besides, the rugby league highlights are on the other side.
Personally I shall give watching it a miss. Besides, the rugby league highlights are on the other side.
Streathamite
ideological dogmatist
The question I woulda PMed Justin - had events not conspired to stand betwixt me and a PC on Sat would have been either "why do you think the Area Commander of Police told you to 'shove it'?" or, alternatively "who's got it wrong over Brixton policing, you or your shadow chancellor?"
Gramsci
Well-Known Member
Saw you on TV Justin 
Rachel managed to talk at great length about how good Oliver Letwin was in Brixton 
Howard is a right bastard.It showed when he started going on about immigration and "asylum seekers".You would have though the son of asylum seekers wouldnt come out with this crap.
Still watching these question time programmes makes me realise how out of touch Im with the great Brixtish public
.Thats why I dont normally watch them.
Also Howard came out with the one about being only interested in policies that help the "British people".It doesnt matter whether they are left,right or in the centre in his opinion.
And then he spouts a load of right wing policies.
On Brixton he said that "people" want more "bobbies on the beat" regardless of whether crime is going up or down as this makes them feel safer.Really.Obviously Im not one of the "people".Still hes not that different from Blunkett.
Their is a whole subtext behind Howards reasonable tone.You cant go saying No Blacks No Irish these days.You can say that "Asylum seekers" are healthy young men who pay people trafficers to come here.Ergo you arent a proper Asylum seeker.Basically thes policies appeal to the small minded UKIP/Sun reader type.Whats been called "Soft Fascism"-correctly IMO.
Still with my views Im not part of the mainstream
Rachel managed to talk at great length about how good Oliver Letwin was in Brixton Howard is a right bastard.It showed when he started going on about immigration and "asylum seekers".You would have though the son of asylum seekers wouldnt come out with this crap.
Still watching these question time programmes makes me realise how out of touch Im with the great Brixtish public
.Thats why I dont normally watch them.Also Howard came out with the one about being only interested in policies that help the "British people".It doesnt matter whether they are left,right or in the centre in his opinion.
And then he spouts a load of right wing policies.
On Brixton he said that "people" want more "bobbies on the beat" regardless of whether crime is going up or down as this makes them feel safer.Really.Obviously Im not one of the "people".Still hes not that different from Blunkett.
Their is a whole subtext behind Howards reasonable tone.You cant go saying No Blacks No Irish these days.You can say that "Asylum seekers" are healthy young men who pay people trafficers to come here.Ergo you arent a proper Asylum seeker.Basically thes policies appeal to the small minded UKIP/Sun reader type.Whats been called "Soft Fascism"-correctly IMO.
Still with my views Im not part of the mainstream
Donna Ferentes
jubliado
In fact the debate was by no means relentessly bad, though it might have been better had I had the chance to point out that poverty as well as crime was an issue in Brixton. (I was even going to mention the secondary school, but Rachel's peroration ruled that out.) But in fact there were, and usually are, plenty of people who will disagree with law 'n' order posturing if somebody else says so bluntly and firmly first. (And doesn't say "locus", Rachel.)Gramsci said:
Donna Ferentes
jubliado
No change there then. And I'd rather stick red hot pokers up my own jacksy than watch the appalling Haywood on TV.Justin said:
Typical of the arrogant, stuck up dimwit who has probably done more to stifle consultation in Brixton than any other to hijack a programme on which real Brixton residents might otherwise have had a chance to speak. But no, she had to go on and gag them there too by wanking on until the time ran out. Hyacinth Bucket representing Brixton. I am all but choking on my chicken korma.
IS - I see how she appears, but if you get to know her, she actually does care about some of the stuff that matters. And she does take on alot of work.
Yeah, there are other people I might have preferred to see on that programme.
But Rachell was a main player I think in getting Pullross Road Playground up, active and revamped after its decay and the shooting incident there.
PS - I don't do cliques, whether u75 or Brixton Area Forum. But nowadays criticisms of Rachell Heywood, or anybody really, I'd take to their face.
Yeah, there are other people I might have preferred to see on that programme.
But Rachell was a main player I think in getting Pullross Road Playground up, active and revamped after its decay and the shooting incident there.
PS - I don't do cliques, whether u75 or Brixton Area Forum. But nowadays criticisms of Rachell Heywood, or anybody really, I'd take to their face.
Actually no, apparently she did fuck all and has tried to take all the credit for it from the volunteers who did do all the work.hatboy said:
This is a woman who got local kids to make designs for the B OUR GUEST thing. And then what did she do? Did she throw an event to which the kids who did the work could go and enjoy themselves? No, she had a champagne reception for all the big noises. Kids and staff/volunteers from the contributing playgroups etc were not invited.
Zubaier -- she is chair of the Brixton Area Forum, which specialises in totally ignoring the wishes of Brixton residents.
IntoStella said:
The Coldharbour/Angell Group doesn't.
Look L***. I am suspicious of whether people higher up in the council are really listening to these meetings and groups, but that doesn't mean that some of the residents who attend these meetings, and therefore are part of "Brixton Area Forum" are not absolutely genuine and as concerned about stuff as you or anyone else.
Some are, some aren't.
And don't blow your top, but there's many people in Rushcroft and Clifton Mansions, where your group APT is, who do not feel that APT is fair or representative atall.
The point is that both APT and BAF are flawed, but that doesn't mean good can't come out of them.
I don't find it difficult to make a choice between believing either a politician with a track record of bullshitting and self-aggrandiesment or the actual volunteers who run the playground.hatboy said:
As for local residents' groups, apt is open to all who share its aims, ie defending public housing. I haven't seen you at any of its meetings. You have one personal friend who has an entirely personal problem with one member of the committee. And you have only heard one side of the story. That's not the same as what you have made out, is it? Be honest.
Mrs Magpie
On a bit of break...
er, no, I know the bloke who did that with the local kids so she's taken the credit there too.....IntoStella said:
I wonder if he was invited to the champagne reception.Mrs Magpie said:
Donna Ferentes
jubliado
Actually the spooky thing was that she knew who I was. According to her Jim Something had told her that I was going to be on. And what's spookier is that I didn't know him either.
(I think it went like this. The ITV people had asked if I knew anybody else who'd got something to say and I suggested that they conbtact comminuity organisations through the Town Hall. This was because I was specifically thinking of black organisations and I don't know who they'd be. Presumably the researchers then contacted the Town Hall, who then put them onto the Area Forum people, who in the course of conversation wondered who'd suggested them - or who else was on - and were told it was me. Hmm. But who is Jim Thingy?)
(I think it went like this. The ITV people had asked if I knew anybody else who'd got something to say and I suggested that they conbtact comminuity organisations through the Town Hall. This was because I was specifically thinking of black organisations and I don't know who they'd be. Presumably the researchers then contacted the Town Hall, who then put them onto the Area Forum people, who in the course of conversation wondered who'd suggested them - or who else was on - and were told it was me. Hmm. But who is Jim Thingy?)
lang rabbie
Je ne regrette les gazebos
The joy of conspiracy theories
Googling Jim and "Brixton Area Forum" only gives
Cllr Jim Dickson
Jim Carrol (chair of Camberwell Community Forum)
I wouldn't rule out Jim Blunt of the SLP (who I suspect might lurk around this forum)
Justin said:
Googling Jim and "Brixton Area Forum" only gives
Cllr Jim Dickson
Jim Carrol (chair of Camberwell Community Forum)
I wouldn't rule out Jim Blunt of the SLP (who I suspect might lurk around this forum)
The thot plickens
I think I know.Justin said:
Miles out.lang rabbie said:
IntoStella said:
About APT. There's more to it than that IS. APT sometimes comes across as afew people trying to call the shots. Like BAF does. Like alot of these things. Doesn't mean there isn't good in it also. That is being honest. I wasn't thinking of any particular friend (and in fact what you said could apply to several people I know).
I don't think Rachell Heywood is a politician btw, just a volunteer. But she's not my favourite person or something and you may well have a point so I'm not going to defend her more than I have already.
I'm not interested in getting into yet another temper ping-pong on here. Take care - Paul x
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