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Mark Duggan shooting inquest in London finally starts...

laurie penny's father should be reflecting on the horror he helped bring into the world

It's a very rare day when I think the fabulous Laurie says anything even remotely sensible, but for once (just once) she's come out with something that's not a total facepalm.

As for the father thing - ain't gonna disagree w/you there, my man.
 
Another case of 'we believed'
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It's a very rare day when I think the fabulous Laurie says anything even remotely sensible, but for once (just once) she's come out with something that's not a total facepalm.

As for the father thing - ain't gonna disagree w/you there, my man.

I'm pretty sure her dad died a couple of months ago.
 
tbh it's a) a class thing - harry stanley, mark duggan, working class men in east london - no attempt to resolve either situation peacefully. b) it's police murder - THEY set up a position in which the copper who killed MD was going to shoot, was frankly conditioned to expect to see a gun, sealing MD's fate. c) if this was to do with crime then they'd have set up a better op e.g. the traditional knock on the door in the morning.
I agree that this was pre-planned and that they were going through with the OP no matter what.
 
so lets have this right. Duggan leaves the taxi unarmed, gets shot (one of which shots is a through and through which lodges in a colleagues radio). The weapon he was supposed to have had is found in a sock 30 feet away behind some steel railings. The bloke accused of selling him it is no saint but it took three trials to convict.

none of the shooters can be named.

The family had to hear from bystanders before the OB told them they'd shot his kid. When there was a gathering outside his local nick OB beat up on a teenage girl, sparking the largest riots since toxteth

Ever get the feeling we aren't really in a democracy?
 
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