Mark Duggan shooting inquest in London finally starts...

[8ball]

what they said was he threw the gun before he was shot > so i thought it more likely to lead to an unlawful killing because he was unarmed. but apparently not.

They'd need unanimity on the jurors believing the copper was not mistaken about the gun but shot knowing he was unarmed.

 

[peterkro]

So he was unarmed but because they believed he was armed this is OK,Jesus.

 

[8ball]

So he was unarmed but because they believed he was armed this is OK,Jesus.

In a nutshell.

 

[Pickman's model]

Shooting an unarmed man is lawful

 

[butchersapron]

Certainly the way the BBC presented it, that didnt make much sense. Hopefully there will be considerably more detail released soon.

Are you suggesting there is other stuff to back up the action that's not been mentioned in situ reports?

 

[TopCat]

1. BBC News
   Lawyers are trying to calm the court as people scream "Murderers".
   
   
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   IN COURT1607: Danny Shaw Home affairs correspondent, BBC News
   There is shouting in court as the public abuse jurors.
   

 

[agricola]

Are you suggesting there is other stuff to back up the action that's not been mentioned in situ reports?

One would hope so, the way that was reported sounded as if it was one hack passing info to another hack over a headset, with all the possiblity for error that might entail. The written summary of what the jury actually found in each case should explain things further.

 

[DotCommunist]

cunts, this was a plain and simple whack job and they've got away with it again

 

[8ball]

Certainly the way the BBC presented it, that didnt make much sense. Hopefully there will be considerably more detail released soon.

It wasn't the Beeb's fault that it didn't make sense.

 

[Pickman's model]

Bet the Met are happy this isn't happening in July.

better weather for masking up mind.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Millions of pounds spent on this, when twelve quid buys...

Skum

 

[brogdale]

cunts, this was a plain and simple whack job and they've got away with it again

...and all the more likely in future...

Legal aid cuts 'affect investigations' 1550:
Cuts to legal aid could mean deaths like the police shooting of Mark Duggan are not properly investigated, a charity has claimed.

Deborah Coles, from Inquest which focuses on deaths in custody or at the hands of police, said the money-saving measures would leave bereaved families unrepresented, while the police and other institutions benefit from taxpayer-funded legal teams.

 

[Pickman's model]

street lighting in tottenham tonight?

 

[plurker]

jmharingey 4:08pm via web
Family screaming: "what are you running away from." "You are all police, you f**kheads"

jmharingey 4:07pm via web
#Duggan jury have left the court for safety reasons.

jmharingey4:06pm via web
Marlon #Duggan is screaming that police are murderers

 

[MellySingsDoom]

The Graun has it up now: http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/jan/08/mark-duggan-lawfully-killed-inquest

 

[IC3D]

Scum.

 

[ddraig]

oooh people getting angry in court., no shit, people shouting, really? and presenter bordering on an imitation of black person complaining a 'black life ain't worth nutting' FOR FUCK SAKE

 

[brogdale]

News of the verdict knocked this story off the top of the Guardian site.

Met police want water cannon ready to use in Britain by summer

 

[MellySingsDoom]

Elizabeth Pears ‏@BizPears 3m
Our reporter @MaryIsokariari is in court. The screams she played to me sent chills down my spine. Duggan's mum Pamela has collapsed.

 

[stupid dogbot]

Shocker.

 

[peterkro]

The spineless cover up begins led by the fucking BBC reporters,cunts.

 

[brogdale]

Must be quite a bit of overtime booked in for the Met tonight.

 

[Corax]

So he was unarmed but because they believed he was armed this is OK,Jesus.

Yep, which is at the root of the well known phrase:

Talk softly and carry a big stick. But make sure to put a large label on the stick reading "stick" and shout "THIS IS A STICK, NOT A GUN!" every 30 seconds.

 

[MellySingsDoom]

Logan 40K Sama ‏@djlogansama 1m
If they don't want riots again, they better explain why this jury was able to judge lawful killing even though Mark was unarmed at the time

Elizabeth Pears ‏@BizPears 34s
What we've witnessed here is a trial of Duggan's character not an examination of what happened. That man was shot twice. His gun 20ft away.

 

[DotCommunist]

this is what happens right. Nick a bottle of water during a riot and expect courts to be literally running overtime (they did). Murder an unarmed man and get away with it, so long as your gang colours are correct

 

[Corax]

The Graun has it up now: http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/jan/08/mark-duggan-lawfully-killed-inquest

Fucking bullshit.

 

[brogdale]

R5 reports attempt to kick in door to coroner's office.

 

[Dan U]

CourtNewsUK ‏@CourtNewsUK10m
Duggan 'supporters' smoking a joint in precincts of Royal Courts of Justice

fucked up, confused verdict.

 

[butchersapron]

So he was unarmed but because they believed he was armed this is OK,Jesus.

There literally is no defence against 'we believed' - you can do anything - within mad limits. But it's an open invitation on the personal level to do stuff like this and on the collective level to do even worse. This is law out of control, out of societies control . Even from the small fingerhold we had on it.

 

[frogwoman]