Loughborough Junction chitter-chatter

[Gramsci]

Lambeth Council always used to hold private pre-meetings prior to the open public meeting.
So it might be irregular in your view - but in Lambeth it's a tradition!

The confusion is this.

The Steering Group for road improvements is Council set up.

The Loughborough Junction Neighbourhood Planning Forum was set up by LJAG. Its not a Council forum. Its also an open forum. LJAG know I post up the minutes and agenda here. And are quite happy about that. Anyone is welcome to attend.

For convenience of those attending it was decided to hold the two meetings on the same evening. There is usually a report back to LJNPF of what happened at the Steering Group.

 

[Beasley]

That may be so, but it did seem odd that speaker(s) on the agenda of the second meeting left before it started without much of an explanation.

 

[Gramsci]

That may be so, but it did seem odd that speaker(s) on the agenda of the second meeting left before it started without much of an explanation.

You mean some of the officers? I didnt see who was there for the first meeting.

 

[Beasley]

That’s what I meant: the agenda for the (2nd) meeting included Mike Fawcett of Family Mosaic (Higgs) and Nicola Wyte of Lambeth Regeneration and Steven Wong from Lambeth Transport so it could have been interesting.

 

[teuchter]

LJ Co-op seems to smell of sewage of late.

 

[CH1]

LJ Co-op seems to smell of sewage of late.

Surprised it doesn't smell of gas.

I've had major digging operations outside the house - with letters telling me they going to replace gas pipelines - and indeed had now succeeded in doing this.

Yet all that happened was they dug a hole exposing the pipes - which involved much men parked in vans outside with their feet on the dashboard.
After a few days they then filled in the hole. This also involved suspending parking and erecting cheap and nasty plastic barricades.

I was told by the more Giant Haystacks sized gas hole operative that they would be erecting some sort of screen with sensors to protect their expensive equipment. Nothing ever happened.

I believe it was a rip-off. The Gas Board i.e. SGN (Southern Gas Networks) are clearly in the business of employing private contractors who take their cue from "The Emperor's New Clothes" by Hans Christian Anderson.

Never mind money laundering - our super privatised energy companies are being rooked by spivvy contractors whose financial interests are best served by faking work.

When Botes did this to Lambeth Council we at least had Herman Ouseley to blow the whistle. Who protects us from SGN's fake contractors?

 

[Harbourite]

LJ Co-op seems to smell of sewage of late.

the pong is getting stronger. staff can't work out what it is. not very nice for them.
reckon there must be a burst outflow pipe under the floor by the cash machine and flowers.

 

[Harbourite]

which involved much men parked in vans outside with their feet on the dashboard.

hole digging racket alive and well in lambeth

regularly have falco vans from the UKPN site on cambria road parking on surrounding streets (having left base at maximum speed), leave the engine running and the driver/passengers have a kip for half an hour. i knocked on window of one and asked him to turn his engine off if he was going to be parked there for a while and got a response that suggested i may be the contents of a soon to be dug and filled hole.

 

[Harbourite]

and the previously squatted electric company building on cambria road has had the railings painted and very shiny medieval looking sharp metal things stuck on top to stop anyone breaking in. must have cost a bit. very effective.

apart from the bit at the LJ end where they've left a nice 2 foot gap where you could get up on the adjoining wall and climb over. not that i am encouraging squatting.

 

[teuchter]

On Saturday night a car crashed into the corner of Wanless Rd / Herne Hill Rd, taking out two cast iron bollards in the process. It's still there. Does that mean the driver did a runner and no-one knows who owns it?

 

[CH1]

and the previously squatted electric company building on cambria road has had the railings painted and very shiny medieval looking sharp metal things stuck on top to stop anyone breaking in. must have cost a bit. very effective.

apart from the bit at the LJ end where they've left a nice 2 foot gap where you could get up on the adjoining wall and climb over. not that i am encouraging squatting.

And to think LJAG helped block development of the site 2-3 years ago.

 

[Lizzy Mac]

I noticed the official response of a parking ticket going on yesterday.

On Saturday night a car crashed into the corner of Wanless Rd / Herne Hill Rd, taking out two cast iron bollards in the process. It's still there. Does that mean the driver did a runner and no-one knows who owns it?

 

[ChrisSouth]

And to think LJAG helped block development of the site 2-3 years ago.

The council turned down UKPN's application to cram this with housing as they wished this to remain a light industrial unit rather than dense housing. I had thought that this parish would appreciate this.

 

[Harbourite]

and the previously squatted electric company building on cambria road has had the railings painted and very shiny medieval looking sharp metal things stuck on top to stop anyone breaking in. must have cost a bit. very effective.

apart from the bit at the LJ end where they've left a nice 2 foot gap where you could get up on the adjoining wall and climb over. not that i am encouraging squatting.

obviously a UKPN U75 lurker out there - 2 foot gap now filled

 

[teuchter]

obviously a UKPN U75 lurker out there - 2 foot gap now filled

This thread is the place to report power outages then

 

[CH1]

The council turned down UKPN's application to cram this with housing as they wished this to remain a light industrial unit rather than dense housing. I had thought that this parish would appreciate this.

So it's OK to cram housing onto the former Barrington Road Old People's Home site, and the Marcus Lipton Youth Centre site - but unused LEB depots should be used for breeding foxes??

So it's all about parishes. If you are fortunate enough to live in the Parish of St John's Angel Town you're fucked. Contrariwise living in the Parish of St Saviours it's localised street gentrification and nimbyism - blessed by the Lord.

 

[Beasley]

Talking of which, has anybody noticed the new building for St Johns CofE Primary School in Angell Road with its strikingly large and bold Christian "branding" in the form of an illuminated cross and school logo?
These details of the design were given planning permission (see Elevation) but some might find them a bit excessive.

 

[Angellic]

Talking of which, has anybody noticed the new building for St Johns CofE Primary School in Angell Road with its strikingly large and bold Christian "branding" in the form of an illuminated cross and school logo?
These details of the design were given planning permission (see Elevation) but some might find them a bit excessive.

It's hideous. It replaced a large metal relief sculpture of an angel that was on the previous building and I was hoping it was going back up. It remained on the edge building site but has since disappeared. Perhaps it's been moved inside the building.

 

[CH1]

Talking of which, has anybody noticed the new building for St Johns CofE Primary School in Angell Road with its strikingly large and bold Christian "branding" in the form of an illuminated cross and school logo?
These details of the design were given planning permission (see Elevation) but some might find them a bit excessive.

I feel I should check it out after this adverse critique. It is a church school though, so it is hardly surprising they have put a cross on it.

I can see a BHA logo might be seen by some as more modern and aspirational - but currently the BHA only supply volunteers to speak in comparative RE lessons - not run schools.

 

[Angellic]

I feel I should check it out after this adverse critique. It is a church school though, so it is hardly surprising they have put a cross on it.

I can see a BHA logo might be seen by some as more modern and aspirational - but currently the BHA only supply volunteers to speak in comparative RE lessons - not run schools.
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No problem with the cross. it's the huge, shiny shield with the school logo that offends.

 

[Beasley]

unused LEB depots should be used for breeding foxes??

Some while back I read (on Urban75 ??) a proposal that this site be used for development of King's College hospital.

 

[CH1]

Some while back I read (on Urban75 ??) a proposal that this site be used for development of King's College hospital.

Don't you think that the "Kings 2000" project has kind of got out of control?
They started it in 1989 or even earlier and there is no sign of it finishing yet.
No wonder people round here have problems getting GP appointments - especially since they closed our one GP surgery in Coldharbour.

It would have been really odd for Kings to have taken over the St John's School site when we have been blessed with the Cathedral of Healthcare which is the Akerman Centre - albeit that Akerman comes under St Thomas's.

Would they have expected St John's School to be permanently in temporary pre-fabs in Somerleyton Road?

If you find or remember the reference to this Kings proposal I would be interested - if only so I could to go to a Lameth CCG "open to the public" pre-meeting and ask embarrassing questions.

 

[CH1]

No problem with the cross. it's the huge, shiny shield with the school logo that offends. View attachment 93583

I'm off as soon as PM finishes to catch the beauty of it in the approaching dusk!

 

[CH1]

No problem with the cross. it's the huge, shiny shield with the school logo that offends. View attachment 93583

I saw a sign like that facing the church on the Angel Road side. Also the massive cross on the corner of the building facing Overton Road/Peckford Place corner.

Funnily enough the sign facing Angel Road looked a bit twee I thought - an angel praying in front of a cross apparently - but not a black background as you have.
More like this in fact (not a photo - this is my edit of an internet image)

Is the more satanic version on a different wall of the school?

 

[ChrisSouth]

So it's OK to cram housing onto the former Barrington Road Old People's Home site, and the Marcus Lipton Youth Centre site - but unused LEB depots should be used for breeding foxes??

So it's all about parishes. If you are fortunate enough to live in the Parish of St John's Angel Town you're fucked. Contrariwise living in the Parish of St Saviours it's localised street gentrification and nimbyism - blessed by the Lord.

I'm not aware of any Lambeth planning officers living by the electricity works. Are you?

 

[CH1]

I'm not aware of any Lambeth planning officers living by the electricity works. Are you?

No. Did I say that?

 

[Angellic]

I saw a sign like that facing the church on the Angel Road side. Also the massive cross on the corner of the building facing Overton Road/Peckford Place corner.

Funnily enough the sign facing Angel Road looked a bit twee I thought - an angel praying in front of a cross apparently - but not a black background as you have.
More like this in fact (not a photo - this is my edit of an internet image)
View attachment 93593
Is the more satanic version on a different wall of the school?

It's the same sign, just the shield and no black, or blue, background. It's so shiny and plasticy and big. Like a Christian superstore. The architects must despair. The old angel in a dull grey metal relief was much more pleasing. I wonder what happened to it.

 

[CH1]

It's the same sign, just the shield and no black, or blue, background. It's so shiny and plasticy and big. Like a Christian superstore. The architects must despair. The old angel in a dull grey metal relief was much more pleasing. I wonder what happened to it.

Not disputing about your old metal angel bas-relief if that's the right word. (I can't remember seeing it though). I think the new sign is OK - but obviously these things are a matter of taste.

The school building itself looks a bit cheap and utilitarian. But there again perhaps that's good. The way Lambeth Council go on the site might be needed in 10 years time for a luxury tower block to pay for the refurbishment of Angell Town Estate Mk II.

 

[Harbourite]

LJ Co-op seems to smell of sewage of late.

The source of stink has been found - a rogue brie cheese that somehow got behind the chiller cabinets. staff have not ruled out foul play.

As the cabinets are bolted to the floor and the brie cannot be reached, emergency back-up has been called up from Co-op head office to take the shop apart and remove the cheese. "It's an overnight job".

Normal aroma should be resumed by middle of next week.

 

[ChrisSouth]

No. Did I say that?

Then I'm not entirely sure why you're going on about NIMBYs