Loughborough Junction chitter-chatter
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teuchter
je suis teuchter
Textbook first wave gentrifier commentChatting to someone yesterday. Said I like it up in LJ as its has not had the "gentrification" that Brixton has been getting. He said it will come there next.
Really hope these new developments in LJ with "ensuite" bathrooms are not the start.
Seriously I like it up in LJ the way it is. Cycle up through Brixton bit of CHL and its finished imo. Cross the Gresham road Junction and its back to good old London again.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
We'll have new trains with more capacity soon but I expect they will immediately become full of people from further down the line too, and things will not be much different for those getting on at LJ.
It was suggested that there may be capacity for extra Wimbledon loop line trains through Loughborough Junction (terminating at Blackfriars) when works at London Bridge are finished in 2018.
Does anybody know if this could ever happen?
Crispy
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It would mean terminating at Blackfriar's, but yes it could happen.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
The plans for what happens after 2018 seem to be constantly in flux. I'm unclear what the current proposals are for the wimbledon loop trains.
xsunnysuex
Life is a horizontal fall.
This came through my door this afternoon.
Gramsci
Well-Known Member
Glad they've put that letter round.
Was just wondering today about how there's been no news on this since the funding for it was won. They plan to open in a year then.
"please keep an eye out for consultation and engagement events".Will do!
I have been reporting on this in previous posts. It comes up at the monthly LJ Neighbourhood Planning meetings I attend.
Gramsci
Well-Known Member
This came through my door this afternoon.
Its good they have sent this letter around.
But my issue with this from the start was that residents were not properly consulted about the future of the site.
Given that the Ward Cllrs made such a thing about what they regarded as poor consultation re roads I did point out this is what is happening with this project. To be told in so many words that this was a good project by a Cllr so different to the roads issue. I beg to differ on this.
The reason being from the Council was that the funding was applied for at the last minute and there was not time to consult people.
Is what is proposed what residents want from the site? No one has been asked. Its presented as a Good Thing and no one should raise reservations.
"Enterprise based"- Ive already raised reservations about the obsession to make everyone "entrepreneurs"- see my previous posts here.
Been told the steering group contains resident Reps ie for exampple LEMB. Who in theory report back to there residents/ members and feedback into the Steering Group. Is this happening?
I’m not clear what "affordable workspace" means in practise. From what I gather the model being looked is Pop ( minus the food stalls) which is supposed to operate with some units paying "market" rates and others getting a discount. None of this has been decided yet so its a bit optimistic to talk about affordable space at head of letter.
Unlike Pop this is for the next 25 years. Makerspace will manage site for five and then it supposed to be handed over to community control. Idea to build up skills of residents to take over management. But do residents really want to manage this? Have they not got enough to do to get by already? The funding will set the project up but I am not clear if the GLA funding will stretch to covering later years. If not how will it keep going?
Ive seen whats happened to Pop. Lot of promises. After that I would be very wary of taking letters like this at face value.
See its on LEMB letterhead. So they are on board now.
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bimble
floofy
I think it's kind of amazing that the letter says the site will open in Summer 2017. This is going to be a huge thing with massive impact one way or another and the plans still seem so vague.
The architects mentioned look extremely swish though Hub Westminister
But what's this ? (I just googled Public Works from the letter) : public works: Projects: The Public(s) Land Grab
Have you met these researchers Gramsci
The architects mentioned look extremely swish though Hub Westminister
But what's this ? (I just googled Public Works from the letter) : public works: Projects: The Public(s) Land Grab
Have you met these researchers Gramsci
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teuchter
je suis teuchter
It makes me feel a bit weary, each time I read the blurb on the websites of these kinds of groups. It always says the same kind of stuff in slightly opaque language and projects are always "in progress". There's always a nebulous group of "collaborators". I always find myself asking what they have actually done, with an actual outcome that we can get our teeth into.
Leo Chesterton of this forum started a campaign on FixMyTransport back in 2013 but it petered out and FixMyTransport is now “archive only” — closed to new submissions.
Where would be best source of help in restarting the campaign — advice please — ? LJ Train Madness ?
Gramsci
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I have met Tom from Public Works. He did some of the early drawings for the project.
Public Works is collective of architects who are interested in working with community groups.
They are definitely not supporters of the Carl Turner commercially driven model. Architect as businessman.
So I would say they are left wing young architects who want to make architectural practice more socially conscious.
The new generation of architects are critical of the last thirty or so years of architecture working for Neo Liberalism.
Its a return to some of the ideas of the 70s. Or reinventing them.
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teuchter
je suis teuchter
Looks to me like Public Works are probably employed to run the consultation sessions etc. They don't look to have designed any buildings as such, more art installations and the like. Seem to be a mix of academics and recent RCA Masters graduates.
Architecture 00 more likely to design the actual scheme, they look like they are a fully functioning practice able to do larger projects.
Architecture 00 more likely to design the actual scheme, they look like they are a fully functioning practice able to do larger projects.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
This discussion probably belongs on the dedicated thread though
Loughborough Junction regeneration project, inc. Farm site
Loughborough Junction regeneration project, inc. Farm site
teuchter
je suis teuchter
Could have sworn we had a dedicated Masterplan thread from when the consultation sessions were going on but I can't find it. I think we must have just had the discussion on this thread.
So have started a new thread here:
Loughborough Junction masterplan (presentation 14/17 September)
Gramsci
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Next meeting:
Loughborough Junction Neighbourhood Planning Forum on Wednesday 31 August at 8pm
You are invited to the Loughborough Junction Neighbourhood Planning Forum on Wednesday 31 August 2016 at 8pm in the undercroft meeting room in Woolley House, on Loughborough Road (the hall is on the ground floor of Woolley House, the entrance is through the grey door to the right of the main entrance under the Woolley House sign – if you are having difficulty finding please ring 07799 621 582).
Please click for the minutes of the meeting of 27 July 2016
https://gallery.mailchimp.com/c6783...es/LJAGLJNeighbourhoodPF27.07.2016minutes.pdf
the draft agenda for the meeting on 31 August 2016
https://gallery.mailchimp.com/c6783...les/LJAGLJNeighbourhoodPF31.08.2016agenda.pdf
and email from Doug Black, conservation officer, Lambeth council
https://gallery.mailchimp.com/c6783...JAGLJNeighbourhoodPF27.07.2016DBlackemail.pdf
Loughborough Junction Neighbourhood Planning Forum on Wednesday 31 August at 8pm
You are invited to the Loughborough Junction Neighbourhood Planning Forum on Wednesday 31 August 2016 at 8pm in the undercroft meeting room in Woolley House, on Loughborough Road (the hall is on the ground floor of Woolley House, the entrance is through the grey door to the right of the main entrance under the Woolley House sign – if you are having difficulty finding please ring 07799 621 582).
Please click for the minutes of the meeting of 27 July 2016
https://gallery.mailchimp.com/c6783...es/LJAGLJNeighbourhoodPF27.07.2016minutes.pdf
the draft agenda for the meeting on 31 August 2016
https://gallery.mailchimp.com/c6783...les/LJAGLJNeighbourhoodPF31.08.2016agenda.pdf
and email from Doug Black, conservation officer, Lambeth council
https://gallery.mailchimp.com/c6783...JAGLJNeighbourhoodPF27.07.2016DBlackemail.pdf
CH1
"Red Guard"(NLYL)
Thank you for this.
Doug Blacks comments about the New Loughborough Estate blocks makes sense to me.
What does he mean by "grand terraces" in Coldharbour Lane - Dover Terrace and Chichester Terrace SE5?
Views of Chichester Terrace are included here (as well as a view of the former and now late lamented Loughborough House frontage). Photo feature - a walk down Coldharbour Lane, Brixton, through Loughborough Junction into Camberwell, London SE5, March 2011
brixtonblade
Well-Known Member
CH1
"Red Guard"(NLYL)
that was bottom of page one here https://gallery.mailchimp.com/c6783...es/LJAGLJNeighbourhoodPF27.07.2016minutes.pdf
brixtonblade
Well-Known Member
Ah yes. Thank you.
I was looking at the wrong doc.
I was looking at the wrong doc.
Harbourite
Eggnog
has anyone else noticed the ink cap mushroom like graffiti/paintings/street art around LJ?
one on a window at the side of coop
one further up the road towards the taxi garages
i don't think it's a knowing wink wink
guerrilla media campaign for an imminently opening mushroom themed burger and coffee outlet
hmm ...
the truth must be out there - i can't stand being kept in the dark
one on a window at the side of coop
one further up the road towards the taxi garages
i don't think it's a knowing wink wink
guerrilla media campaign for an imminently opening mushroom themed burger and coffee outlethmm ...
the truth must be out there - i can't stand being kept in the dark
xsunnysuex
Life is a horizontal fall.
Through the post today.
xsunnysuex
Life is a horizontal fall.
Angellic
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Received this email.
Clean Up Sunday - 4 September from 11am to 2pm.
Loughborough Junction Clean-up Day this
Sunday 4 September from 11am to 2pm with free bread and cheese lunch and visit to the Loughborough Farm
Meet at Loughborough Junction station at 11am for a spot of gentle gardening. We will be moving and replanting some of the planters around the station and if there is time we will start tackling Station Avenue.
There will be a free bread and cheese lunch at 1pm at the Loughborough Farm on Loughborough Road.
Please come and join us even if you can only spare half an hour we would love to see you.
Help us keep Loughborough Junction a lovely place to live and visit and please get in touch by ringing 07799 621 582 if you need extra information.
Clean Up Sunday - 4 September from 11am to 2pm.
Sunday 4 September from 11am to 2pm with free bread and cheese lunch and visit to the Loughborough Farm
Meet at Loughborough Junction station at 11am for a spot of gentle gardening. We will be moving and replanting some of the planters around the station and if there is time we will start tackling Station Avenue.
There will be a free bread and cheese lunch at 1pm at the Loughborough Farm on Loughborough Road.
Please come and join us even if you can only spare half an hour we would love to see you.
Help us keep Loughborough Junction a lovely place to live and visit and please get in touch by ringing 07799 621 582 if you need extra information.
Gramsci
Well-Known Member
Some photos of the Loughborough Estate Management Board event at Loughborough sq on Saturday. Nice event and great food.
Also put some photos of Public Works stall there on the LJ project thread.
Also put some photos of Public Works stall there on the LJ project thread.
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CH1
"Red Guard"(NLYL)
Decided to try the illegal FREE hole in the wall cash machine at Loco:
16/04472/FUL | Retention of the installation of an ATM to the front elevation an ATM. Replacing part of the existing glazing with a white laminate composite security panel incorporating the ATM fascia with black bezel surround and white internally illuminated lettering Free Cash withdrawals out of black background. Blue LED halo illumination to the ATM surround (Town planning and Advertisement Consent) | 233 Coldharbour Lane London SW9 8RR
Tesco was refused permission for a hole in the wall cash machine a couple of years ago - and Co-op have one of those portable internal cash machines.
Loco (and Notemachine UK Ltd) just went ahead and installed theirs without permission from Lambeth Council. I noticed in the latest Weekender that Lambeth Planning Enforcement had caught up with them.
I'm rather minded to support the application from Loco - but point out that to be fair to all traders - and the vibrant residents of LJ - we need more free machines not less.
Incidentally the reason for refusing Tescos' ATM planning application 2 years ago was that it would interfere with traffic!
16/04472/FUL | Retention of the installation of an ATM to the front elevation an ATM. Replacing part of the existing glazing with a white laminate composite security panel incorporating the ATM fascia with black bezel surround and white internally illuminated lettering Free Cash withdrawals out of black background. Blue LED halo illumination to the ATM surround (Town planning and Advertisement Consent) | 233 Coldharbour Lane London SW9 8RR
Tesco was refused permission for a hole in the wall cash machine a couple of years ago - and Co-op have one of those portable internal cash machines.
Loco (and Notemachine UK Ltd) just went ahead and installed theirs without permission from Lambeth Council. I noticed in the latest Weekender that Lambeth Planning Enforcement had caught up with them.
I'm rather minded to support the application from Loco - but point out that to be fair to all traders - and the vibrant residents of LJ - we need more free machines not less.
Incidentally the reason for refusing Tescos' ATM planning application 2 years ago was that it would interfere with traffic!
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