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How do I go about getting one of these in my road? Are they privately owned and managed or are our incompetent chums at LBL involved?
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leanderman
Street Party: July 2
Scheme run by this firm:
Experts in indoor and outdoor cycle parking, cycle stands, bike racks, bike lockers, bike shelters, bike pumps and home bike storage.
Can put you in touch with the person in this street who organised ours if you like.
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Harbourite
Eggnog
I haven't tried it yet ... is it good?
Harbourite
Eggnog
sorted for this weekend, thanks! any recommendations welcome
Gramsci
Well-Known Member
I attend the LJ Neighbourhood Planning meetings.
I agree that this should have been kept.
It was a decision by the Council with no further consultation.
It's a capitulation to the car lobby.
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hiraethified
Ooh, I'll have to give them a go. £4.95 main veggie dishes get the thumbs up from me, and their 'meal deals' look reasonable too.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
Do you know if they've provided any reasoning behind this decision?
I had a 2 meal deal with a friend and we got 2 evening meals out of it, with massive portions.
They always give you a Poppadom, which is nice of them.
Gramsci
Well-Known Member
Did cross my mind when replying to ChrisSouths post that they haven’t provided a reason. So a good question.
Will try to ask at next Neighbourhood Planning Forum.
Unlike the closure of top of Loughborough Road this was not stopping a road that car drivers had become accustomed to treat as a main road.
I can understand why the Council capitulated. At a recent meeting in Brixton road changes to favour cycling and pedestrians came up. The car driver said "No one is taking my car away from me". I worked hard to get it etc etc. When I pointed out the Council were not going to take away her car a heated discussion ensued. My point in this anecdote is that people regard any change to how roads are used as an infringement on there rights.
The other anecdote is someone who comes through LJ to West End I know. He put asylum seekers ( Syrians) and cyclists together as minority groups that politicians favour. When they should be prioritising the hard (British) working man ( and his car).
The insinuation from both people is that they are decent hard working "ordinary" people. Owning a car is a symbol of that. Unlike layabouts like me who haven’t got it together to buy a car.
And it doesn’t help that the Lambeth Green Party appear to have gone to ground on this issue. Letting the Labour Party take the flack. I have asked them about it and they go on about increasing public transport instead and don’t want to talk about it. Not impressed. They are quite happy getting votes from disillusioned Labour voters on housing etc but see how green issues around transport aren’t popular so push them into background.
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teuchter
je suis teuchter
Yup. And Brixton Buzz wouldn't touch it either.
Anyway, regarding the Padfield rd closure, I don't see what the argument could have been. It's used as a route to bypass the traffic lights at Herne Hill Rd / Coldharbour Lane. I guess the few seconds a driver can shave off their journey by doing this is considered more important than the consequences for the people on nearby residential streets. There are quite often cars tearing taking this shortcut with several blind corners at considerable speed, especially at night. Was nice for the few months this wasn't possible.
Anyway, regarding the Padfield rd closure, I don't see what the argument could have been. It's used as a route to bypass the traffic lights at Herne Hill Rd / Coldharbour Lane. I guess the few seconds a driver can shave off their journey by doing this is considered more important than the consequences for the people on nearby residential streets. There are quite often cars tearing taking this shortcut with several blind corners at considerable speed, especially at night. Was nice for the few months this wasn't possible.
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cuppa tee
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I am thinking in the light of the EU referendum result that there is resonance here
the ordinary people of Loughborough Junction rejected a diktat from the Lambeth superstate
as they dint like being told what was good for them by "progressives" many of whom live outside the area
as a response to their uppity actions metropolitan liberals tried to paint them as retrograde thickos
who had been aligned with right wing pro-car lobbyists and some even wished them and their offspring a slow painful death through choking as punishment for not knowing their place.
edited to say I am not calling Gramsci as a metropolitan liberal, but at least one vocal supporter of the closures has identified himself as such elsewhere on the forum.
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teuchter
je suis teuchter
Yes there are similarities. This is something that has occurred to me too. Some of what you say is true. But also, in each case the decision made by the "ordinary people" (although I'm not sure it's really as simple as that) very likely isn't in their own interest, in the long term, and was made based on beliefs that don't match reality. Which of course is the kind of thing a patronising "metropolitan liberal" might say, but it doesn't mean it's not true.
Gramsci
Well-Known Member
Yes there is a resonance.
But also agree with teuchter that this is not in there long term interests.
I come from the South West England. In Cornwall they voted for Brexit but they are a big recipient of EU money as Cornwall is a poor area. I know it might not seem so but its been the case for a long time. Also EU has been good at supporting minority identities-( Cornish are part of the Celtic fringe of Europe and are proud of it.) Cuts no ice with the ordinary Cornish in the street.
Despite this the ordinary Cornish voted Brexit. Doesnt surprise me. Regard anything from outside as an intrusion. Whether its Westminster or EU.
The other resonance with LJ is that up at LJ its a culture war going on. As the EU referendum became. Like blaming immigrants opposing reduction in car use is the wrong battle.
xsunnysuex
Life is a horizontal fall.
What the fuck is happening with Wyck Gardens? The council really used to look after it. The grass was cut regularly, and it looked lovely. Walked through it this morning and it looks like a field, not a park space. Has the council cuts done away with the grass cutters. It looks terrible.
xsunnysuex
Life is a horizontal fall.
I don't mind it in certain places. The far right corner in Barrington Rd is always like it. But not the whole park.
xsunnysuex
Life is a horizontal fall.
Seems very much like it."Cuts = no cuts" I suppose
cuppa tee
Well-Known Member
grass maybe too wet to cut, this happened in Kennington Parl recently cos the lawnmower blades kept breakingWhat the fuck is happening with Wyck Gardens? The council really used to look after it. The grass was cut regularly, and it looked lovely. Walked through it this morning and it looks like a field, not a park space. Has the council cuts done away with the grass cutters. It looks terrible.
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xsunnysuex
Life is a horizontal fall.
Makes sense I guess. Hopefully that will be the reason, and it will get cut soon.
bimble
floofy
This pretty leaflet from Lambeth came through our letterbox a couple of days ago. Sticking it here in case not everyone has received their copy.
It's about the £750,000 which the council & TFL still have to spend on LJ's public spaces and invites everyone to give their feedback on the provisional plan at a 'community celebration event' on 9th July (next Saturday afternoon) in.. " Loughborough Square" (?)
The ideas outlined include some really major and interesting stuff like "Simplified Road system with safer crossings" & "reworking street layouts to increase the public spaces" - sounds like an attempt to re-start the conversation about the LJ masterplan after the divisive abandoned road closures?
Maybe if people do get informed and involved in what happens next with all that money looks like a real opportunity for good outcomes both in the built environment and socially. Optimistic face.
It's about the £750,000 which the council & TFL still have to spend on LJ's public spaces and invites everyone to give their feedback on the provisional plan at a 'community celebration event' on 9th July (next Saturday afternoon) in.. " Loughborough Square" (?)
The ideas outlined include some really major and interesting stuff like "Simplified Road system with safer crossings" & "reworking street layouts to increase the public spaces" - sounds like an attempt to re-start the conversation about the LJ masterplan after the divisive abandoned road closures?
Maybe if people do get informed and involved in what happens next with all that money looks like a real opportunity for good outcomes both in the built environment and socially. Optimistic face.
Gramsci
Well-Known Member
Thanks for putting this up.
It was discussed at the last LJ Neighbourhood Planning meeting I went to last week about whether the leaflets had gone out to everyone in the area.
What I’m not clear on is if all 14 options can be done with the money or its a case of choosing a few.
The Council set up a "Steering Group" to decide the above. So this is first chance for Joe Public to have there say.
I also think that posters here, if they want to, should go and stress they want traffic calming works done. As at the LJNP the car lobby were still trying to get this watered down. Complaints that traffic calming will make life difficult for car drivers.
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