Child abuse or paedophilia?
To protect the children.How come the women arent being named
Causation/correlation?Both
it was certainly known that he had a liking for his 14 & 15 year old female fans (if the rest of the band deny that, they're liars, no matter what else they might not have known about). On one of those 'whogoesoutwithwho' sites he was on (cos of going out with ferne cotton, iirr) there were several clearly underage girls saying how they'd had him - including a couple who could give detail to confirm they'd 'had him' and would fight any other 'bitch' who got in their way. It was still up after he'd been arrested, dunno about nowI've had two people in the last day tell me that they'd heard stuff years back. A mate I was giving a lift up to Shellac said that he had been invited to a forum back in about 2004/5 where people were saying that he was into all sorts of shit. Someone else who used to do music reviews for a website said that everyone knew that he "he liked them young". When he was about 25 he was allegedly taking a 15 year old home who reviewed for the same site.
Makes you wonder what his band mates did know. If he was doing that shit in hotels on tour they must have had some idea.it was certainly known that he had a liking for his 14 & 15 year old female fans (if the rest of the band deny that, they're liars, no matter what else they might not have known about). On one of those 'whogoesoutwithwho' sites he was on (cos of going out with ferne cotton, iirr) there were several clearly underage girls saying how they'd had him - including a couple who could give detail to confirm they'd 'had him' and would fight any other 'bitch' who got in their way. It was still up after he'd been arrested, dunno about now
He saw what happened when they threw a 5 year old into the green room at Download festival
Causation/correlation?
it was certainly known that he had a liking for his 14 & 15 year old female fans (if the rest of the band deny that, they're liars, no matter what else they might not have known about). On one of those 'whogoesoutwithwho' sites he was on (cos of going out with ferne cotton, iirr) there were several clearly underage girls saying how they'd had him - including a couple who could give detail to confirm they'd 'had him' and would fight any other 'bitch' who got in their way. It was still up after he'd been arrested, dunno about now
Did this "journalist" report what he saw to the police?
I can see people doing some very stupid things when totally off their box, but I find it incredibly hard to believe that someone would become a paedophile due to drugs, if they weren't already predisposed to such things.Definitely more causation than correlation I'd say. Well, maybe not 100% cause, but it's definitely a factor in people doing things they would otherwise never have done, overtly abnormal sexual practices definitely being up there as one of the main ones.
That last comment wasn't to be taken seriously.
Thank goodness for that. This whole story is so fucked up that it wouldn't of surprised me to find out such a thing had happened.
We're into 'reefer madness' territory here. Drugs no more turns someone into a paedophile than alcohol turns a man into a wife-beater.I can see people doing some very stupid things when totally off their box, but I find it incredibly hard to believe that someone would become a paedophile due to drugs, if they weren't already predisposed to such things.
littlebabyjesus said:We're into 'reefer madness' territory here. Drugs no more turns someone into a paedophile than alcohol turns a man into a wife-beater.
That's certainly my take on this too. Meth is nasty stuff but it doesn't make one a paedophile.We're into 'reefer madness' territory here. Drugs no more turns someone into a paedophile than alcohol turns a man into a wife-beater.
All those booze fuelled friday night fights must be down to the music or something.
I can see people doing some very stupid things when totally off their box, but I find it incredibly hard to believe that someone would become a paedophile due to drugs, if they weren't already predisposed to such things.
I'd say more likely he was able to identify weak and vulnerable women, rather than those who are already paedophiles.Is the implication that Watkin's was able to identify fans who were already paedophiles then? If we're saying that the drugs didn't cause the mother's behaviour, then they must already have been abusers. Addiction turns people into all sorts of things they weren't before.
In the case of Watkins, he was clearly already that way before he'd smoked anything Class A.
Bahnhof Strasse said:No, they're down to violent arseholes.
With alcohol being an aggravating factor.