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to protect the kids and maybe because their houses would likely be burnt down and their families given loads of grief?
 
Somebody's just come out with the first ian watkins joke..... it was quite funny, but I dont know whether I should still be at the disgusted stage.
 
I've had two people in the last day tell me that they'd heard stuff years back. A mate I was giving a lift up to Shellac said that he had been invited to a forum back in about 2004/5 where people were saying that he was into all sorts of shit. Someone else who used to do music reviews for a website said that everyone knew that he "he liked them young". When he was about 25 he was allegedly taking a 15 year old home who reviewed for the same site.
it was certainly known that he had a liking for his 14 & 15 year old female fans (if the rest of the band deny that, they're liars, no matter what else they might not have known about). On one of those 'whogoesoutwithwho' sites he was on (cos of going out with ferne cotton, iirr) there were several clearly underage girls saying how they'd had him - including a couple who could give detail to confirm they'd 'had him' and would fight any other 'bitch' who got in their way. It was still up after he'd been arrested, dunno about now
 
it was certainly known that he had a liking for his 14 & 15 year old female fans (if the rest of the band deny that, they're liars, no matter what else they might not have known about). On one of those 'whogoesoutwithwho' sites he was on (cos of going out with ferne cotton, iirr) there were several clearly underage girls saying how they'd had him - including a couple who could give detail to confirm they'd 'had him' and would fight any other 'bitch' who got in their way. It was still up after he'd been arrested, dunno about now
Makes you wonder what his band mates did know. If he was doing that shit in hotels on tour they must have had some idea.
 
Growing up on the metal scene there were often rumours about Watkins and his liking for young fans :(

I can't help but wondering what must have happened to him to fuck him up so much that he's done this depraved fucked up stuff. He must be fundamentally damanaged to go this far. Normal, happy, well adjusted people don't do stuff like this.
 
Causation/correlation?

Definitely more causation than correlation I'd say. Well, maybe not 100% cause, but it's definitely a factor in people doing things they would otherwise never have done, overtly abnormal sexual practices definitely being up there as one of the main ones.
 
it was certainly known that he had a liking for his 14 & 15 year old female fans (if the rest of the band deny that, they're liars, no matter what else they might not have known about). On one of those 'whogoesoutwithwho' sites he was on (cos of going out with ferne cotton, iirr) there were several clearly underage girls saying how they'd had him - including a couple who could give detail to confirm they'd 'had him' and would fight any other 'bitch' who got in their way. It was still up after he'd been arrested, dunno about now

Also all over parts of the internet was the fact that an on-off girlfriend, who was often target of the bitchy comments on such sites, had reported him to police ages ago but nothing happened.

This is now in the press, along with the fact that South Wales police are being looked at by the IPCC to see if they failed to act quickly enough.

eg:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ian-watkins-ex-girlfriend-warned-cops-2854744
 
Definitely more causation than correlation I'd say. Well, maybe not 100% cause, but it's definitely a factor in people doing things they would otherwise never have done, overtly abnormal sexual practices definitely being up there as one of the main ones.
I can see people doing some very stupid things when totally off their box, but I find it incredibly hard to believe that someone would become a paedophile due to drugs, if they weren't already predisposed to such things.
 
It's also quite feasible that it was the post-Savile atmosphere that finally caused them to take the case seriously.
 
I can see people doing some very stupid things when totally off their box, but I find it incredibly hard to believe that someone would become a paedophile due to drugs, if they weren't already predisposed to such things.
We're into 'reefer madness' territory here. Drugs no more turns someone into a paedophile than alcohol turns a man into a wife-beater.
 
littlebabyjesus said:
We're into 'reefer madness' territory here. Drugs no more turns someone into a paedophile than alcohol turns a man into a wife-beater.

All those booze fuelled friday night fights must be down to the music or something.
 
Just saw that the hotel this happened in. Right next to my old place. My bedroom looked out over it. He could have been doing all this stuff just feet away from me :(
 
I can see why meth might lower inhibitions resulting in antisocial behaviour including abuse. But I don't really understand how it can alter sexual orientation - do people think it turns existing paedophiles into predatory paedophiles, then?
 
I can see people doing some very stupid things when totally off their box, but I find it incredibly hard to believe that someone would become a paedophile due to drugs, if they weren't already predisposed to such things.

Is the implication that Watkin's was able to identify fans who were already paedophiles then? If we're saying that the drugs didn't cause the mother's behaviour, then they must already have been abusers. Addiction turns people into all sorts of things they weren't before.

In the case of Watkins, he was clearly already that way before he'd smoked anything Class A.
 
But might loosen what "controls" they have somebody might have urges say too piss all over michael gove ( which is natural and entirely normal) but wouldnt normally act on it.

10 beers later and a handy avilable spot from which to piss:(

He was already a rock star and had ready access to willing teenage girls so more drugs more darker fantasys way way more drugs and willing accomplances who are off their faces and what to most people would seen abhorrent seems like a good idea:mad:
Frankly most men might fantasize about a teenager wearing a school uniform but acting on it when your over 30 is just sleazy and eeeeeew.
I could imagine doing some really dark shit in certain circumstances but baby rape no.
 
Is the implication that Watkin's was able to identify fans who were already paedophiles then? If we're saying that the drugs didn't cause the mother's behaviour, then they must already have been abusers. Addiction turns people into all sorts of things they weren't before.

In the case of Watkins, he was clearly already that way before he'd smoked anything Class A.
I'd say more likely he was able to identify weak and vulnerable women, rather than those who are already paedophiles.
 
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