Lost Prophets...
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Yeah and no chance of any future royalties, in this country at least. Still the question is begged how much did they know?
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Royalties are royalties. They are not effected. They could not have know about the stuff he went guilty on.
Athos
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I think the point is that people won't buy the records.
And I doubt many radio stations will play their music any more. That being said its often repeated that glitter still makes a tidy penny from royalties from other countries.
Serotonin
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Well if internet gossip sites from way before he was arrested are to be believed, people knew about his predilections.
Just reading through some of the comments from 3 yrs ago allegations of child abuse and bestiality then.
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skyscraper101
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It's a tough break on the band. I'm sure their royalties will suffer. I imagine they will have gone up a bit in the last few days as people who didn't know who they were went online to check them out. Interestingly Glitter still gets a few bit in royalties, I hear Rock and Roll Part 1 and 2 being played in the US quite a lot, but that hit's more of a known quantity there, rather than him personally as a nonce - I understand he's able to live comfortably enough anyway. Not sure about how much his UK royalties have suffered. Oasis will still pull in quite a bit for him just off Morning Glory. Plus the KLF from Doctorin' the Tardis.
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D'wards
IT'S YOUR DECISION DANIEL
The women are named on that one. I wonder if we'll find out their sentences too.
They are just as evil as Watkins IMO, they are the child's protector and keeper and they do this to them. It's too horrible for words
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TheHoodedClaw
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E! Online posted a story with a picture of Ian "H" Watkins from Steps accompanying the article, tweeted it to their 6 million followers, and didn't take it down for an hour. Oops.
D'wards
IT'S YOUR DECISION DANIEL
On a side note, I read there were some fans there to support him in court - I can't understand these types of people who support their heroes through thick and thin, and will defend them against overwhelming evidence because they like their music/fancy them.
The nobs at Michael Jackson's trial springs to mind (yes, i know he got off but there was pretty strong evidence for the prosecution there too - a gulity man was found not guilty in my opinion)
The nobs at Michael Jackson's trial springs to mind (yes, i know he got off but there was pretty strong evidence for the prosecution there too - a gulity man was found not guilty in my opinion)
Stigmata
sexual tyrannosaurus
The alarming phenomenon of Chris Brown's vocal female defenders on Twitter and elsewhere after he was done for domestic violence comes to mind. Some people are just a mess. But then i'm sure Peter Sutcliffe gets love letters in prison
I'd heard of them but couldn't recall if I'd actually heard them so ghoulishly searched youtube for one of their two top ten hits. I think the first three vids I clicked had been removed. Can't recall it having now listened to it. Sounded pretty shit and I actually like metal. He's now more famous than he deserves to be albeit for the wrong reasons. Or maybe the right reasons. Forever the nonce now.
Doesn't necessarily get that far. First time offenders, even for a contact offence against an under 13 can get non custodial sentences which involve having to complete a sex offenders program.
D'wards
IT'S YOUR DECISION DANIEL
In my job I deal with people's Police National Computer records, and the other day someone had a caution for a sexual crime with on a under-13 year old - we could not understand it. No details aprt from just that though.
Boppity
Meet me in Outer Space.
I didn't know his real name was Ian Watkins! It's almost fortunate for him that alot of people know him only as "H" and wouldn't have made the connection.
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
We'll find out their sentences, we find out everyone's, and when they're released only slightly after the fact. Just not their names.
They're probably victims almost as much - contacted and used from a young age, their naivety exploited and twisted. We have no idea how 'bad' they really were before he got to them.
imposs1904
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I see the official videos are still up on YouTube but they've disabled the comments, so someone will be profiting from the accompanying ads.
Boppity
Meet me in Outer Space.
I don't think the women should have been named, to protect the children involved.
gosub
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They released one dove for each crime he was not guilty of, didn't they? Always wondered what they would have done with them had he been found guilty of half the charges
Athos
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I think it's probably a criminal offence to name the mothers.
Thimble Queen
Called away to another place
they have already been named in a few different places on the internet....
Poor kids. Not only is there the possibility of trauma from whats been done to them, and from separation from their mother at such an early age; one day someone is going to have to sit down and tell them what was done to them and their mothers involvement
trashpony
Hag
Yes but sadly once information is in the public domain, it's very hard to take it back. Poor, poor kids
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
The problem is that this has only been the case in the last decade, and even then is predicated on a fairly generic form of therapy that may only skim the surface of the offender's psychopathology. There's an unfortunate effect in such programmes, as in inmate programmes, where offenders deduce what the therapist wants to hear, and then present the therapist with a version of that. Without programmes that lean heavily toward one-on-one therapy, I'm not convinced that such solutions do much more than teach offenders to hide better.
Gerry1time
Did a wee in Dirac's toilet
I knew their current / final drummer back in the day, he's massively talented and was getting loads of work as a session drummer in LA before joining the band, so reckon he'll find himself new work without any trouble at all. He's the son of the guy who used to manage The Wonder Stuff oddly enough.
wiskey
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He (H) has always struck me as a really unlucky person. I bet he's glad he goes by H.
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frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
the drugs were probably a factor but i don't think drugs can make a person into a paedophile if they're not already. It's more lilely that he had noncey urges to begin with and the drugs helped him be less inhibited about it.
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