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London Student protests - Wed 8th Dec+ Thurs 9th

LOL how do they think they will ban the protests??

The idea isn't to stop the marchers, mate. It's to be able to criminalise them. If the protest marches are banned, then anyone undertaking a protest march is guilty of a (IIRC) civil offence in law.
This is aimed at weeding out the waverers who'll think "fuck, I can't risk getting nicked", and will make it easier for the govt and their sock-puppet Stephenson to pretend that the marchers are "hardcore class war activists" and almost as bad as terrorists.
 
They do sometimes, for instance when they push people back into kettles. In this instance though there was clearly a group of students geared up for violence wearing green crash helmets with giant mock books to push and break police lines.
So, implements that are defensive in nature, like helmets and shields (look up the definitions of the word "shield" in a dictionary sometime) somehow transmute into implements of offence, brought purely to "push and break police lines"?

You're already fucking dead. :rolleyes:

I know many think protestors can do no wrong, but there was an organised attempt to cause disorder at that protest from some people.
Have you any proof of these "organised attempts"? Given that the police and the security services haven't been able to turn anything up, I do believe that you're bullshitting, and spieling off crap that you've read in the red-tops.
 
Lies. Here's the police cavalry charge. The line was static at that point and this attack inflamed the crowd. One of your precious guardians of the queen's peace even got trampled quite badly by his own horse in the ensuing mess.



Yep, flying wedge is a standard cavalry assault formation deployed in order to split a static mass into two or more more manageable portions. It's not a tactic you'd employ in response to pushing and shoving, or even to strengthen lines elsewhere. Its purpose is to cause chaos.
 
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There's a slight difference between my posting serious comment, and your attempts at right-wing iconoclasm. Pretentious of me to classify what I post as "serious comment", I know, but compared to the dreck you post, it is. :)
 
Yep, flying wedge is a standard cavalry assault formation deployed in order to split a static mass into two or more more manageable portions. It's not a tactic you'd employ in response to pushing and shoving, or even to strengthen lines elsewhere. Its purpose is to cause chaos.

I've played Medieval Total War 2 a lot, and therefore feel well qualified to second this.
 
So, implements that are defensive in nature, like helmets and shields (look up the definitions of the word "shield" in a dictionary sometime) somehow transmute into implements of offence, brought purely to "push and break police lines"?

You're already fucking dead. :rolleyes:


Have you any proof of these "organised attempts"? Given that the police and the security services haven't been able to turn anything up, I do believe that you're bullshitting, and spieling off crap that you've read in the red-tops.

Yes, I’ve seen people posting up information on how to break police lines, and discussions on what to throw at the police. Then there are groups of protestors for instance all the revolution kids who stick together and try to agitate violence.
 
Yes, I’ve seen people posting up information on how to break police lines, and discussions on what to throw at the police. Then there are groups of protestors for instance all the revolution kids who stick together and try to agitate violence.

if it's said on the internet it must be true :oops:
 
The idea isn't to stop the marchers, mate. It's to be able to criminalise them. If the protest marches are banned, then anyone undertaking a protest march is guilty of a (IIRC) civil offence in law.
A criminal, not civil offence. Organising or inciting people to take part are punishable by up to 3 months in prison and/or fine up to £2500, taking part by a fine of up to £1000.
 
if it's said on the internet it must be true :oops:

You don't have to be a genius to work out that lot's of radical socialist student groups organise on the internet. I've been at protests myself and seen groups of radical socialists & anarchists trying to start violence.

I used to be a socialist, I know how they operate.
 
So, implements that are defensive in nature, like helmets and shields (look up the definitions of the word "shield" in a dictionary sometime) somehow transmute into implements of offence, brought purely to "push and break police lines"?

You forget, flares, paintbombs and snooker balls which are all offensive.
 
£10 if you can produce evidence of a snooker ball
thanks

It's easy to produce evidence of paint bombs, flares and missiles being thrown at police. This image of all the protestors being sweet and innocent is bullshit, the sooner some of you admit there are some groups of violent protestors the sooner you will all be taken seriously by those outside of your clique board.
 
It's easy to produce evidence of paint bombs, flares and missiles being thrown at police. This image of all the protestors being sweet and innocent is bullshit, the sooner some of you admit there are some groups of violent protestors the sooner you will all be taken seriously by those outside of your clique board.

So why did you invent a lie about snooker balls? Do you think that lying helps or undermines your case?
 
It's easy to produce evidence of paint bombs, flares and missiles being thrown at police. This image of all the protestors being sweet and innocent is bullshit, the sooner some of you admit there are some groups of violent protestors the sooner you will all be taken seriously by those outside of your clique board.

Produce evidence of your claim that a snooker ball was hurled then.
 
Round and round in circles. Posters who have a clue argue with someone who clearly has no idea what the cops do at demos.
 
Oh you've remembered - well done. It was a different one a few months ago.

No it wasn't, I simply confused the Socialist Party of Great Britian as being the Socialist Party. It's a joke there are so many different socialist parties in the UK. The fact that so called comrades can't even work together in the same party just shows everything that is wrong with Socialism and Communism in practice.
 
Round and round in circles. Posters who have a clue argue with someone who clearly has no idea what the cops do at demos.

Yes I do have a good idea of what police do at protests, I’ve been on lot's of protests and been subjected to police violence before. I'm not clamming the police are always innocent, I’ve even said that some of the things they have done at the student protest were wrong. I'm just not so utterly bias that I can't admit the reality that some of the protesters were out to cause trouble.
 
It's easy to produce evidence of paint bombs, flares and missiles being thrown at police. This image of all the protestors being sweet and innocent is bullshit, the sooner some of you admit there are some groups of violent protestors the sooner you will all be taken seriously by those outside of your clique board.

Some groups of protestors are violent. So? The state is violent, capitalism is violent, poverty is violent.
 
Yes, I’ve seen people posting up information on how to break police lines, and discussions on what to throw at the police. Then there are groups of protestors for instance all the revolution kids who stick together and try to agitate violence.

You wrote:
"I know many think protestors can do no wrong, but there was an organised attempt to cause disorder at that protest from some people." (my emphasis)

So, we're not talking about discussions or information in posts, or whether "revolution kids" (whatever the fuck they are) stick together, we're talking about organised attempts to cause disorder at that particular protest that you claimed to exist, capisce?
 
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