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Unless they radically change the software, SDO can only cut out individual carriages not individual doors (it is possible to isolate an individual door but only manually and not with SDO). Which will be even more of a nightmare. But then it seems to work OK on the stuff I drive where the last coach/es out of 8/10/12 is/are cut out.
There was talk of them closing when the old ELL was being converted to LO, but they didn't.
One door for the whole carriage? But there are no doors between the carriages, so in effect the train is just one long carriage.
But since people are not confined to the two doors in each carriage it's not that important is it?
Yes it is. Less doors = longer dwell times, especially in the peak when moving down inside the train is impossible.
Dr. Furface
One small step for me
Living near to Gospel Oak station it's great as it makes it real easy getting to east and west London destinations which used to be a real ordeal to get to on tube and/or buses. And unlike the tube it's a pleasure to travel on - the carriages are much nicer, you can look out the window and, even better, you can listen to the radio and tweet and everything, so it's all good as far as I'm concerned.
I love the Overground always get it on the weekends if I need to go South even if it takes longer, just because it's so much nicer
Of course those of us "in the know" know that most of the "Undeground" is in fact over ground, so you can do all that in places on the Tube any way.
Tram extension? Is that still in the pipeline?
TruXta
tired
No idea. You'd still want more capacity going into town surely?
The trouble is everywhere wants more capacity going into town, even places way beyond zone 6. And capacity is finite.
A quick google suggests the tram extension to Crystal Palace is in second place to the plan to extend to Sutton, so who knows when or if it'll happen.
The s106 agreement for that should include a contribution to the costs of improved transport infrastructure, a chicken chow mein, sweet and sour pork balls and some prawn crackers.
TruXta
tired
But how?
tommers
It was... Rebekah Vardy's account
I get the overground twice a day between clapham junc and shepherd's bush. It's so fucking packed that I can't even raise my arm from my side to look at my electronic reading equipment. First world fucking problems but they could do with more than one train every 15 mins.
Can everybody move down please?
Can everybody move down please?
Leafster
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I go Clapham Junction to Olympia and back from time to time and often have to wait for another train back to Clapham as it's so crowded.
I second the "everybody move down please"!!!
Dr. Furface
One small step for me
Not in fucking Camden you can't!
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
Why the fuck is it £4.80 to go just one stop in East London, yet £3.20 to go to the end of the line to Clapham Junction? 
Crispy
The following psytrance is baṉned: All
Cos Shoreditch station is in Zone 1Why the fuck is it £4.80 to go just one stop in East London, yet £3.20 to go to the end of the line to Clapham Junction?
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
Eh?
tbtommyb
Well-Known Member
if you go through shoreditch high street it counts as a zone 1-2 journey and you get charged more.
annoying given that the whole idea of the orbital overground was to reduce zone 1-2 journeys.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
But it's £3.20 to Clapham Junction FROM Shoreditch High Street. And £4.80 to anywhere else. Doesn't make any sense.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
I tweeted London Overground and they were unable to explain either, telling me black was white. 
Where are you getting £3.20 from? I can't see that on TfL's fare list: https://www.tfl.gov.uk/cdn/static/cms/documents/tube-dlr-lo-adult-fares.pdfI tweeted London Overground and they were unable to explain either, telling me black was white.
You are charged by Zone, just like the Tube. A Zone 1-2 journey is charged at £4.80, cash. A Shoreditch HS to CJ journey should be £4.80 according to that table.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
The table is wrong. I bought the ticket from a machine at Shoreditch High Street.
Apparently, it's £4.80 if you go via Willesden Junctiin, and that fare is set by London Overground. If you go via Peckham Rye it's £3.20, which is set by "ATOC-RSP". ATOC is the Association of Train Operating Companies, but I have no idea what the "RSP" bit means, nor why there seem to be two different organisations setting LO fares.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
Why would anyone go to Queen's Road Peckham via Willesden Junction from Shoreditch High Street though?
tommers
It was... Rebekah Vardy's account
Hey Orang Utan I go from Gipsy Hill to Hayes and Harlington in MIDDLESEX for £3.40 one way. I even use London Overground for a part of that.
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