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I have a soft spot for Eurostar and have been a few places on it BUT for every day getting around there can' be many better ways than the overground.

I can get on at the junction and 1 hour and 21 stops later arrive in Stratford have paid less than £2.00, briliant. On the route, it takes in Olympia, Shepherds Bush, Hampstead, Camden and Hackney. What more could you ask for?
 
I have to say they have got it spot on in most ways. From the staff to the design to service levels. It's all so much better than the days of Silverlink!
 
I'm lucky enough to live next door to a Victoria line station, tubes all the time and gets me to work in 12 minutes, cant wait for it to go 24 hours at the weekends.

Overground is ace though, vast improvement on what went before.
 
It's going to run into capacity issues soon. They're adding a fifth carriage onto the trains, but that's as long as they can go, because of the short platforms on the underground section between Whitechapel and Canada Water. What's really annoying is that they completely rebuilt Canada Water as part of the Jubilee extension, but left the platform length alone. My prediction is that Rotherithe and Wapping will have to close in the future. They're very close to their neighbours and aren't worth spending millions on extending. Shadwell, Canada Water and Surrey Quays will have to be lengthened to 8 car platforms, like the new stations on the line.
 
I have come to love the overground. from anerley to highbury and Islington, less than an hour, no changing lines or fucking about. that's fucking service. my only complaint is the presence of a single zone 1 station that means that my travelcard costs an extra 60-odd quid a month.
 
My main complaint is the trains are quite slow. It often feels as if you are crawling along.
 
My main complaint is the trains are quite slow. It often feels as if you are crawling along.
That's the price you pay for heavy rail rolling stock and sharing the track with other services (except on the New Cross - Dalston section, which is much quicker.
 
My main complaint is the trains are quite slow. It often feels as if you are crawling along.
This! I agree it is a great service, I like being not too far below ground, and it fantastically links up some areas but boy does it trundle along at times.
 
It will be interesting to see what TfL do over the next couple of decades as London's population grows by a fifth.
 
It will be interesting to see what TfL do over the next couple of decades as London's population grows by a fifth.
Crossrail 2, and then maybe extend the Bakerloo (and gentrify all of Old Kent Road to pay for it)
 
There's a chance of getting the overground for me after work and I prefer it to the underground as you don't lose your mobile signal.
 
It's bloody brilliant. Fantastically run piece of kit.

TFL could learn a thing or two from MTR Corp.
Apparently they've been doing exactly that in preparation for the Night Tube, in order to cram track maintenance into weeknights.
 
Why do some people call trains 'rolling stock' instead of 'trains'?

I love it. It gets me from SE London to clubland and back at the weekends very often. DLR is ace too, and underused for leisure.
 
Rolling stock is more of a collective noun. It applies to the type or fleet of trains, rather than the trains themselves.

(Really, it's just train geeks using jargon to feel good about themselves)
 
I'd be a happy camper if they increased the frequency on trains going down to Crystal Palace and Croydon.
I think it's unlikely that's ever going to happen - there are already 12tph between New Cross Gate and Sydenham (on the slow lines). Hard to see where they could fit in additional paths without slowing down journey times (it can be a bit of a crawl along that section already - as others have pointed out - because it's so rare to see a green signal).

On the whole though, I quite like the Overground (wouldn't want to drive for them, mind you) but I find that some of the station staff are a bit clueless.
 
Yep. Despite appearances, the Overground is not a tube line, and doesn't have the track segregation and signalling required to operate an intensive service. Apart from the bit that used to be a tube line, of course.
 
They should have ordered trains with 3 sets of doors per carriage, instead of 2.


I remember using the Overground [North London] line Richmond-North Woolwich and Broad St when it was operated by cl 501 3 car units they had the best seats outside of MK1/2/3/4 FO/FK
 
Orang Utan said:
Why do some people call trains 'rolling stock' instead of 'trains'?

It's the difference between saying 'cars' or 'the ford model T'.

Different stock is different manufacturer and models of vehicle.
 
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