London Anarchist Bookfair Saturday 18th October 2014

[redsquirrel]

Would this be an appropriate point at which to post this:



And to link to this?

Always a good time to post WDE.

 

[rekil]

That Northern Soul fillum needs trigger warnings for cultural appropriation, miscegenation and white people dancing.

 

[kenny g]

I shave my head, partly as it feels more authentic as a white male than many other styles BUT I do wonder whether I am appropriating a w/c style from a position of m/c privilege.

 

[Celyn]

I shave my head, partly as it feels more authentic as a white male than many other styles BUT I do wonder whether I am appropriating a w/c style from a position of m/c privilege.

You are depriving the barber-shop man of his rightful work.

 

[revol68]

So after having assumed it was just the fringes of anarchism buying into this Maoist Madness I've been sent this from the Glasgow Anarchist Federation wordpress.

"Cultural appropriation/racism
Lots of white people turned up using fashion displays from cultures that had been othered by white imperialism with no respect for the cultures they were came from and then got defensive when this was fed back in a negative light by the POC strand. Again, while the safer space policy had words on this subject we didn’t have a consistent process on what we were actually doing about it."

Have they simply let the group idiot have the password to the group word press or has the AF jumped the shark?

 

[butchersapron]

So after having assumed it was just the fringes of anarchism buying into this Maoist Madness I've been sent this from the Glasgow Anarchist Federation wordpress.

"Cultural appropriation/racism
Lots of white people turned up using fashion displays from cultures that had been othered by white imperialism with no respect for the cultures they were came from and then got defensive when this was fed back in a negative light by the POC strand. Again, while the safer space policy had words on this subject we didn’t have a consistent process on what we were actually doing about it."

Have they simply let the group idiot have the password to the group word press or has the AF jumped the shark?

I suspect it's the same private college ivy league american member as behind other outrages.

 

[revol68]

Do these idiots have any self awareness? Also what are the other outrages?

 

[butchersapron]

Do these idiots have any self awareness? Also what are the other outrages?

Attempts to insert culturally inappropriate bullshit into the way anarchist groups operate here - see the AF-scotland discussion document that got put around as Af policy a while back. We even had a thread on here.

 

[JTG]

So after having assumed it was just the fringes of anarchism buying into this Maoist Madness I've been sent this from the Glasgow Anarchist Federation wordpress.

"Cultural appropriation/racism
Lots of white people turned up using fashion displays from cultures that had been othered by white imperialism with no respect for the cultures they were came from and then got defensive when this was fed back in a negative light by the POC strand. Again, while the safer space policy had words on this subject we didn’t have a consistent process on what we were actually doing about it."

Have they simply let the group idiot have the password to the group word press or has the AF jumped the shark?

Are they capable of using clear English?

 

[JTG]

I just attempted to google for some intelligent discussion of the whole dreads thing and found a frightening amount of ignorance and knee jerk BS instead. I shall probably just continue to believe that it doesn't fucking matter and there are far better indicators of someone's worth than their fucking hair.

 

[DrRingDing]

I just attempted to google for some intelligent discussion of the whole dreads thing and found a frightening amount of ignorance and knee jerk BS instead. I shall probably just continue to believe that it doesn't fucking matter and there are far better indicators of someone's worth than their fucking hair.

The harm that white people having dreads, does, I find hard to imagine, is as bad as humiliating and abusing someone infront of hundreds of people.

I wouldn't get a complex.

 

[hot air baboon]

....there are far better indicators of someone's worth than their fucking hair....

.....except when we're talking about Donald Trump....

.....you can beautify your home with the New Cultural Appropriation Poster from the home page of this site :

http://awakeningthehorse.wordpress.com/about-2/

Someone I know through anti cuts stuff just posted this.

Is it me or ... 'People of European heritage'?

Really?

Well its the end point of where this identity politics shit ends up.

 

[JTG]

The harm that white people having dreads, does, I find hard to imagine, is as bad as humiliating and abusing someone infront of hundreds of people.

I wouldn't get a complex.

I've tried again this morning and still don't understand wtf you were trying to say

 

[8115]

About Awakening the Horse people, that's a Canadian site. Talking about people of European heritage over there makes a lot of sense. There are serios issues of ownership, not just cultural there due to the poor status of First Nations (or generally indigenous? I am not sure) people.

I think some of the resurgence of cultural appropriation you are talking about might be due to people in USA and Canada beginning to feel that using things from First Nations and other indigenous peoples cultures for fashion, especially when these things were very symbolic ie for ceremonies or I think for fighting in the past, is not acceptable.

 

[kenny g]

About Awakening the Horse people, that's a Canadian site. Talking about people of European heritage over there makes a lot of sense. There are serios issues of ownership, not just cultural there due to the poor status of First Nations (or generally indigenous? I am not sure) people.

I think some of the resurgence of cultural appropriation you are talking about might be due to people in USA and Canada beginning to feel that using things from First Nations and other indigenous peoples cultures for fashion, especially when these things were very symbolic ie for ceremonies or I think for fighting in the past, is not acceptable.

Too true. About as edifying as Madonna going in for all that Kabalah poop.

 

[butchersapron]

About Awakening the Horse people, that's a Canadian site. Talking about people of European heritage over there makes a lot of sense. There are serios issues of ownership, not just cultural there due to the poor status of First Nations (or generally indigenous? I am not sure) people.

I think some of the resurgence of cultural appropriation you are talking about might be due to people in USA and Canada beginning to feel that using things from First Nations and other indigenous peoples cultures for fashion, especially when these things were very symbolic ie for ceremonies or I think for fighting in the past, is not acceptable.

That site is racist drivel. You pretty clearly haven't read a thing on it or understood the postions the idiot puts across.

 

[kenny g]

That site is racist drivel. You pretty clearly haven't read a thing on it or understood the postions the idiot puts across.

I can't see how the site's logic would cope with people from mixed heritage. And as an English / Scot am not sure whether they are suggesting C of E membership, Scots Presbyterian, Paganism or kilt wearing as my most authentic approach.

 

[Orang Utan]

my flatmate brought me Ian Bone's autobiography and some weird pamphlet that was a rather arrid hardcore anarchist economics tract, interspersed with photographs of kittens on pianos.

 

[ska invita]

my flatmate brought me Ian Bone's autobiography and some weird pamphlet that was a rather arrid hardcore anarchist economics tract, interspersed with photographs of kittens on pianos.

Kittens - journal of the wine and cheese appreciation society of greater london - can be hard reads i find. i like the pictures

 

[Orang Utan]

Kittens - journal of the wine and cheese appreciation society of greater london - can be hard reads i find. i like the pictures

Aye. That's the one. What's going on there then? Are they just being merry pranksters?

 

[ska invita]

a nice way to brighten up hard reading...works quite well. there are no gags in the text though

 

[Orang Utan]

What's with the wine and cheese thing?

 

[ska invita]

What's with the wine and cheese thing?

japes
this is them i think
http://antinational.org/en/about-us

 

[Pickman's model]

my flatmate brought me Ian Bone's autobiography and some weird pamphlet that was a rather arrid hardcore anarchist economics tract, interspersed with photographs of kittens on pianos.

they're dull as ditchwater. and as wholesome.

 

[Pickman's model]

What's with the wine and cheese thing?

they're twats

 

[Orang Utan]

I don't think I'll get round to reading any of it. I shall just admire the kittens.

 

[ska invita]

There was an earlier one with a piece on Bitcoin and wikileaks which i read with interest - and immediately forgot what i read...but the kittens remain. bash the rich is a fun read though, no doubt

 

[Orang Utan]

My copy was free. Anarchists are rubbish at selling books.

 

[ska invita]

im not sure how anarchist they are. critical marxists i think maybe describes it. god knows

 

[Pickman's model]

My copy was free. Anarchists are rubbish at selling books.

you missed your chance to buy a load of them and indoctrinate the youth.