London Anarchist bookfair 2020

[butchersapron]

A few groups I'd like to meet/speak to there. I'd go to this. But, equally, a number of not exactly Anarchist groups there. Opens them up to age old arguments from the likes of the Squeegees and the ICC...

Be glad to see it happen though.

Call it / radical / autonomous bookfair i reckon.

 

[chilango]

Call it / radical / autonomous bookfair i reckon.

Yeah. Why not?

 

[butchersapron]

A few groups I'd like to meet/speak to there. I'd go to this. But, equally, a number of not exactly Anarchist groups there. Opens them up to age old arguments from the likes of the Squeegees and the ICC...

Be glad to see it happen though.

No one wants to see that happen. Why the CWO (now ICT) should give us back our typewriters and the case for socialism clearly stated. ZZZZ

Though, this may happen.

 

[butchersapron]

Yeah. Why not?

Because then it's not an anarchist bookfair.

 

[chilango]

No one wants to see that happen. Why the CWO (now ICT) should give us back our typewriters and the case for socialism clearly stated. ZZZZ

Though, this may happen.

I dunno might be a bit light relief from the more contemporary beefs.

 

[chilango]

Because then it's not an anarchist bookfair.

Is it anyway?

 

[butchersapron]

I dunno might be a bit light relief from the more contemporary beefs.

I don't want that and there's enough fucking billy bragg book shit everywhere anyway.

 

[butchersapron]

Is it anyway?

This one, pretty clearly not. The old one - yes, as far as could be.

 

[skyscraper101]

Who are 'Art For Animals'? - I've never heard of them.

 

[chilango]

I'm all for keeping it politically tight. But I'd rather the CWO than (say) some PKK cheerleaders.

But I'm not organising it, or an alternative to it. I'd just be happy for something to go to and speak to people at.

 

[chilango]

This one, pretty clearly not. The old one - yes, as far as could be.

Yeah. I was referring to this one.

 

[JimW]

I'd just be happy for something to go to and speak to people at.

Church coffee morning?

 

[Benjamin F]

A few groups I'd like to meet/speak to there. I'd go to this. But, equally, a number of not exactly Anarchist groups there. Opens them up to age old arguments from the likes of the Squeegees and the ICC...

Be glad to see it happen though.

I agree, I look forward to it starting up again. Glad to see local bookfairs and gatherings have taken off elsewhere too, I hope these continue rather than effort concentrates just on the London one. Not entirely anarchist groups and speakers have long been given space in the past - IWW and other Syndicalist groups (e.g. Education Workers Network), AFA, Jewish Socialist Group. I guess the difference between these groups and SPGB, ICC etc, is a matter of the degree of overlap with them and social anarchists, the willingness to work together, rather than be 'won over'.

I notice that SolFed, AFN and IWW are amongst those that haven't signed up yet - is there an organisational reason for this, or have they not yet go round to responding....?

 

[chilango]

Church coffee morning?

Fuck it. That's all there is round here.

 

[butchersapron]

I agree, I look forward to it starting up again. Glad to see local bookfairs and gatherings have taken off elsewhere too, I hope these continue rather than effort concentrates just on the London one. Not entirely anarchist groups and speakers have long been given space in the past - IWW and other Syndicalist groups (e.g. Education Workers Network), AFA, Jewish Socialist Group. I guess the difference between these groups and SPGB, ICC etc, is a matter of the degree of overlap with them and social anarchists, the willingness to work together, rather than be 'won over'.

I notice that SolFed, AFN and IWW are amongst those that haven't signed up yet - is there an organisational reason for this, or have they not yet go round to responding....?

I think you've questioned your own answers there.

Are you Ben F what done the book btw?

 

[Magnus McGinty]

Could we not give them a whole fortnight before we condemn them utterly and forever?

Are you new here?

 

[Pickman's model]

Are you Ben F what done the book btw?

I've long wondered the same

 

[butchersapron]

I've long wondered the same

I have a specific research reason if so...

 

[cantsin]

for those of us not very up on all this, is it all underpinned by trans / terf divisions ? But would that make the 17 / 18 organisers pro Helen Steel etc ? ( And then how come Active are back, who were vocally supportive of HS iirc ?

Or wrong end of stick ?

 

[butchersapron]

for those of us not very up on all this, is it all underpinned by trans / terf divisions ? But would that make the 17 / 18 organisers pro Helen Steel etc ? ( And then how come Active are back, who were vocally supportive of HS iirc ?

Or wrong end of stick ?

It's a brand new active.

 

[cantsin]

It's a brand new active.

ah, that makes sense of a few things tbh, ta

 

[Magnus McGinty]

The millennial melts have won the battle and cleared house and are now the supreme champions to... sell books.

 

[JimW]

Ruling the scene, the final prize.

 

[LDC]

It's a brand new active.

Bristol based now aren't they? Old guard left for the hills abroad I think.

 

[imposs1904]

No one wants to see that happen. Why the CWO (now ICT) should give us back our typewriters and the case for socialism clearly stated. ZZZZ

Though, this may happen.

CBG, surely?

(Showing my age.)

 

[Brainaddict]

So Plan C is no longer Plan Corbyn then?

They never were. As I said, a subset of the group got excited about Corbyn, tried to convert the rest and failed, then left. I met the leavers a couple of months ago complaining bitterly about how the rest of Plan C had failed to get with the social democratic program.

Also Plan C have been doing stuff at the bookfair for years. I think a bit more generosity to people putting time into organising something is in order (and yes, it would have been in order with the last organisers too, but two wrongs don't make a right).

 

[butchersapron]

CBG, surely?

(Showing my age.)

Yep, i was well off there with the groups.

 

[Pickman's model]

The millennial melts have won the battle and cleared house and are now the supreme champions to... sell books.

back in the days of the anarchist youth network there was a plan some of them came up with to take over the anarchist movement through seizing control of freedom

 

[Magnus McGinty]

back in the days of the anarchist youth network there was a plan some of them came up with to take over the anarchist movement through seizing control of freedom

Is that the same lot who were going to storm the US (iirc, might have been Israeli) embassy?

 

[Pickman's model]

Is that the same lot who were going to storm the US (iirc, might have been Israeli) embassy?

if it was around 2003, 2004 then almost certainly. and it was probably the us.