Liz Truss’s time is up

[Wilf]

Yes, I agree. She's there until they can figure out a way to ditch her without doing even more damage, or ditching their own rules and regulations so blatantly when they didn't before. That might be next week, it might be next year. It suits them better than anything else right now to have her soak up the worst of it.

I think this is right, in the sense that they don't have any good options. If they could press a reset button sunak would be PM in an instant, but the process to actually hoy her out is so damaging in terms of conflict and looking stupid that they probably won't do it. There was some BBC politics reporter on yesterday saying tory MPs were divided about what to do (stick or twist + whether to act now or leave it X months) but hadn't got a clue how to achieve any of their goals. The only conceivable way forward is if she resigns, but from the point of view of being a careerist politician, why would she? And that wouldn't itself restore their 'reputation' as a party.

Long winded way of saying that pure stasis and lack of mechanisms/process might leave her in till the gen election. Or not.

I think there's an at least superficial parallel with where Labour got to under Corbyn in the run up to the 2019 election, inc the Brexit policy. The party still fighting like rats in a sack and a headline policy on Brexit that was just about the absence of having a policy. No way for either faction in the party to take control and the relationship particularly with working class voters shot to pieces. The tories have somehow managed to do this whilst in government and by trashing the economy. Quite impressive.

 

[JimW]

He’s gone!

Needs a Richie Benaud voice and mention of the long walk back to the pavilion.

 

[Lurdan]

twitter link

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Needs a Richie Benaud voice and mention of the long walk back to the pavilion.

He won't be watching that innings again in a hurry.

 

[Orang Utan]

I saw this at work today and think Truss and Kwarteng need to read it:

 

[Orang Utan]

I saw this at work today and think Truss and Kwarteng need to read it:
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Too late for Kwarteng - just seen he’s gone
lololololololol

 

[Rob Ray]

I'm torn between enjoying the uplifting spectacle of Tories yet again being absolutely miserable and feeling a bit queasy knowing that Bojo and Sunak are probably also enjoying it.

 

[spitfire]

He’s gone!

 

[Wilf]

shut up.

This.

 

[Part 2]

 

[Louis MacNeice]

With the rumours about truss sex life that might just be good news though

Yep the problem with Liz Truss is how she may or may not like to have sex!

Think harder before typing please.

Cheers - Louis MacNeice

 

[JimW]

twitter link

Nice to hear unlike most paranoid crypto anti Semites they're relaxed and chilling.

 

[Lord Camomile]

I think this is right, in the sense that they don't have any good options. If they could press a reset button sunak would be PM in an instant, but the process to actually hoy her out is so damaging in terms of conflict and looking stupid that they probably won't do it. There was some BBC politics reporter on yesterday saying tory MPs were divided about what to do (stick or twist + whether to act now or leave it X months) but hadn't got a clue how to achieve any of their goals. The only conceivable way forward is if she resigns, but from the point of view of being a careerist politician, why would she? And that wouldn't itself restore their 'reputation' as a party.

Long winded way of saying that pure stasis and lack of mechanisms/process might leave her in till the gen election. Or not.

I think there's an at least superficial parallel with where Labour got to under Corbyn in the run up to the 2019 election, inc the Brexit policy. The party still fighting like rats in a sack and a headline policy on Brexit that was just about the absence of having a policy. No way for either faction in the party to take control and the relationship particularly with working class voters shot to pieces. The tories have somehow managed to do this whilst in government and by trashing the economy. Quite impressive.

Just 'cause you mentioned him, the fact this could basically hand Starmer and his ilk the next election (although, let's not start counting our rotten eggs yet...) and thus give their supporters superficial validation of his superiority to Corbyn/actual left politics... the Tories are still fucking winning, even when they're losing

 

[Wilf]

I'm guessing, lead by gove.

 

[not-bono-ever]

- 1 cunt + 1 cunt = no change in the level of cuntery

I wish early expiration on everyone involved in this shitty political snake and ladders

That’s my high level of discourse over for today

 

[killer b]

do they have any serious people?

 

[Wilf]

I think this is right, in the sense that they don't have any good options. If they could press a reset button sunak would be PM in an instant, but the process to actually hoy her out is so damaging in terms of conflict and looking stupid that they probably won't do it. There was some BBC politics reporter on yesterday saying tory MPs were divided about what to do (stick or twist + whether to act now or leave it X months) but hadn't got a clue how to achieve any of their goals. The only conceivable way forward is if she resigns, but from the point of view of being a careerist politician, why would she? And that wouldn't itself restore their 'reputation' as a party.

Long winded way of saying that pure stasis and lack of mechanisms/process might leave her in till the gen election. Or not. [A week the time between 2 posts is a long time in politics ]

I think there's an at least superficial parallel with where Labour got to under Corbyn in the run up to the 2019 election, inc the Brexit policy. The party still fighting like rats in a sack and a headline policy on Brexit that was just about the absence of having a policy. No way for either faction in the party to take control and the relationship particularly with working class voters shot to pieces. The tories have somehow managed to do this whilst in government and by trashing the economy. Quite impressive.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

do they have any serious people?

It's the ones who always wear ties.

 

[Flavour]

this all moves a little too fast to even enjoy it properly. instagram politics

 

[Tanya1982]

Fuck sake. What a mess to make. She was warned every step of the way.

 

[Wilf]

Well, definitely a sacking that confirms her weakness rather than strength. If it is to be Cunt, that's a way of getting someone in to do the dirty work of reworking the mini budget, but ends up alienating all the wild eyed believers.

 

[not-bono-ever]

In any other field, this kind of fuck up incompetent shitbaggery would exclude you from ever stepping foot in that work sector ever again. These scum are just put into a bit of gardening leave until their mates create another slot to be filled.

Scum

 

[Artaxerxes]

Yep the problem with Liz Truss is how she may or may not like to have sex!

Think harder before typing please.

Cheers - Louis MacNeice

I don't give a shit how she fucks or who she fucks or how often she fucks, she can do what she likes.

Just amused by the phrasing "going in the backdoor of Downing Street" and I reserve the right to giggle over it just as I laugh at the term Cockfosters when the tube announces it.

 

[cupid_stunt]

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Get ready with your no. 2 balloon.

 

[killer b]

Enjoyably, The Daily Star are now live-streaming a lettuce to see if Truss lasts longer than it



Edit: too slow - danny la rouge beat me too it

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

This is all a ridiculous mix of hilarious and terrifying.

 

[xenon]

Do we know what time the press conference is?

 

[spitfire]

Get ready with your no. 2 balloon.

What balloons do I use if she self immolates and calls a GE at 2pm?

(she won't or she wouldn't have bothered sacking Kwasi, it's just a bit of fun)

 

[cupid_stunt]

Do we know what time the press conference is?

Sometime around 2pm, it'll probably be late.

 

[not-bono-ever]

Some members of a Norwegian choir ( yeh ) quizzed me the other week on what the FUCK is going on in the UK. They follow Uk stuff very closely and think we are in some self inflicted terminal death spiral