agricola
a genuine importer of owls
If Liz Truss was sliced bread she'd be unsliced, such is her thickness.
Liz Truss’s time is up
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If Liz Truss was sliced bread she'd be unsliced, such is her thickness.
Well, yes. I do actually have personal experience, on a daily basis my friend. That's my job. They all know she's fucking nuts and can't wait to be rid of her. They all know she's going to lose them the next election by a landslide. Granted this is the Cameron/Osborne/Sunak side of the party, which is a completely separate party in reality but yes - it's accepted internally that 'we're fucked' in the words of my boss. (and I can assure you I'm not part of the 'we')
She did come across as unhinged today, sorry.
Not sure what your point is here. I assume we both share the same goal, to get rid of the Tories, so we're in a conundrum. Let this idiot fuck up the country for two more years or let or her fuck the Tory party for two more years making them unelectable. Which is your preference? I think on reflection I'd prefer a competent leader at this terrifying moment but that could possibly mean the Tories getting back in. So. yes. We're fucked.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
I actually feel some degree of empathy with the individuals charged with attempting to explain to her the macro-economic chaos that she has caused.
ska invita
back on the other side
The investment side had support.. Keynesian stimulus is actually what was wanted by big financial institutions at the time.
But renationalising utilities would not have gone down well, and I don't know what bankers would've done in response but I'm sure it wouldve sounded like squealing and looked like a graph going down somewhere
Sorry, in case I need to say once again, I don't actually work for the Tories but I had to take something during lockdown and so currently work for a company closely affiliated with them. And it has actually been fascinating to observe the shitshow from the inside as a bit of a politics geek.
It totally is the thick of it. But there are incredibly smart people working in there, objectively. A lot of whom disagree wholeheartedly with what Truss is doing. Both economically and socially. She's nuts.
It totally is the thick of it. But there are incredibly smart people working in there, objectively. A lot of whom disagree wholeheartedly with what Truss is doing. Both economically and socially. She's nuts.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
if it's your day job then i'm really surprised you've decided that your best arguments against the tories are your health secretary drinks and smokes and your prime minister's mentally ill. unhinged. nuts. mental illness being such a broad range of things perhaps you could outline just what you think's wrong with her, as it's your area of expertise.
anyway getting rid of the tories is such a paltry aim if the succeeding government is going to be shammer's labour party.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
it's all a piss takeIs this real? I can't tell what's a piss take and what's real any more
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
and unhinged, i hear
Zapp Brannigan
Built like a steakhouse, handles like a bistro
It's a lightly paraphrased semi-transcript of PMQs. Although the bit where Starmer asked if she wanted a cuppa was of course verbatim.Is this real? I can't tell what's a piss take and what's real any more
Spandex
A crazy bulbous punchbag of sound
The Labour manifesto in 2019 was fully costed - perhaps relying on some optimistic economic forecasts, but not too concerning to the markets - until they promised to compensate the WASPI women, which would've cost another £58bn, blowing a hole in all their budget forecasts. If they'd gone ahead with a £58bn black hole in their budget then the markets would certainly have reacted badly. That policy undid all the work Macdonald had done to reassure the markets that Corbyn's Labour was not a threat to their investments.
The markets only care about getting a return on their investments. They don't really care what governments do as long as their investments are safe. They get jumpy when left wing governments are elected as left wing governments should be hurting their investments. Allende, for example, nationalised the copper mines without compensation - about as bad for investors as it could get - and the markets reacted punishingly to that.
Markets are usually reassured by right wing governments as they've traditionally been there to protect the market's investments, at whatever human cost. Truss, with a £60bn black hole in her budget, borrowing billions to pay for the energy price cap when UK borrowing is already high following Covid, relying on fantasy growth to be able to cover the cost when only about 3 people in the world think her trickle-down plan will work, has made the markets think their investments aren't as safe as they'd assumed and they reacted. If she and Kwarteng had announced plans to pay for the energy price cap and tax give away which would've worked financially, such as huge cuts to public spending - ending the state pension, funding the NHS through insurance - the markets wouldn't have batted an eyelid.
ruffneck23
front left
Bingoman
Well-Known Member
Would Tory MPs really vote against their own party and cause an General election knowing full they would face losing their seats and a potential wipeout of the party?
maomao
普費斯
I'm sure they could dredge up half a dozen, they'd need forty or so.
Voting no confidence in your own government is a de facto resignation from the party I guess? It's just Pesto stirring though isn't it.
agricola
a genuine importer of owls
They wouldn't cause a General Election though - the no confidence is in her government, so if they call one and the government loses the Crown asks if someone else can form a government. Given that they have a majority of nearly 80, they almost certainly could form a new government without needing an election immediately.
Also "facing losing their seats and a potential wipeout of the party" isn't as much of a threat when that is what is going to happen if she remains in power.
ruffneck23
front left
I know it's all twatter and im not sure how credible this fella is, but fuck it, if true is funny at least.
WhyLikeThis
Something, something, something
This would be far more enjoyable if she wasn’t currently navigating a potential nuclear conflict.
Karl Masks
Birds Angel Delight
From delusion to devastation, and all points in between
eatmorecheese
He's fallen out of the car again
He can get quotes like this from MP's who are half-cut in the late afternoon/evening, but in the morning they are probably more circumspect
Karl Masks
Birds Angel Delight
OTOH, must be galling for the Libdems to still be trailing the Tories despite everything
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Almost like he sniffs out the claret like a truffle pig and all to draw viewers to his shitty chat show
WhyLikeThis
Something, something, something
We’ve entered another realm (watch the video in the first reply if you havent seen it)
Calamity1971
If Mr Peanut says It's okay, then it is.
Still not grasped the curtsy.
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teuchter
je suis teuchter
What's all this about then?
Saw it linked elsewhere. Can't read it because I'm not a subscriber.
www.telegraph.co.uk
Saw it linked elsewhere. Can't read it because I'm not a subscriber.
Kwarteng’s mini-Budget will boost economic growth in Britain, admits IMF
Fund says UK expansion will be fastest in G7 this year – but inflation will be worse than other advanced countries
www.telegraph.co.uk
Raheem
Well-Known Member
It's a highly spun alternate-reality take on the IMF's criticisms of the UK government yesterday, coupled with a misleading graphic.What's all this about then?
Saw it linked elsewhere. Can't read it because I'm not a subscriber.
Kwarteng’s mini-Budget will boost economic growth in Britain, admits IMF
Fund says UK expansion will be fastest in G7 this year – but inflation will be worse than other advanced countries
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