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Liz Truss’s time is up

Yep, that's fucking fumed me how she's used that bollocks to further her career.
And if there's any deprivation in West Yorkshire her party is responsible.
Let's hope Steve's comment was sarcastic :hmm:
I thought Leeds was meant to be quite prosperous, even in the 90's when she'd have been a teen. Harvey Nichols first outpost and all that. She talks about it - and her (by all accounts but hers very decent) high school - as if it was Detroit.
 
It's all bollocks. She was from a wealthy part of Leeds.
Yes. It seems so ungrateful to lie about the upbringing people who love you provided - I could understand if she had some hideous trauma that required a great reset, but evidently not. It's a real kick in the teeth to go around telling everyone how deprived you were when you weren't. And I thought her father was a professor or something along those lines, so it's unlikely she was culturally deprived either. I wonder if he's proud.
 
Oh, we're are on page 101, which is ironic as the Tory party is about to send Truss to Room 101.

I mean, she's clearly toast, even the Mail has caught up with everyone else, and done a massive U-turn having supported her for the leadership, and celebrated the mini-budget.

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Oh, we're are on page 101, which is ironic as the Tory party is about to send Truss to Room 101.

I mean, she's clearly toast, even the Mail has caught up with everyone else, and done a massive U-turn having supported her for the leadership, and celebrated the mini-budget.

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Damning stuff.


An old friend who died recently once told me a story about economic decline that stuck with me. He had traveled the world as a journalist for Reuters and said Argentina was the best place he’d ever lived. But that was before its collapse into chaos, populism, and crisis in the late 1990s. I last saw him in 2019; he was living in Brussels then, but told me that he worried some similar decline was happening in Britain.

Back then, I dismissed his fears. I’d lived through the turmoil of Afghanistan and Iraq, the global financial crisis and Brexit. I’d seen Scotland coming close to seceding from the country, David Cameron’s austerity leading to calamity, Boris Johnson’s turbulent administration, and Jeremy Corbyn leading Labour to electoral oblivion. But through it all, Britain had plodded along, not exactly prospering as it once had but inching forward nonetheless. Its institutions did their job, the constitution held up, people’s lives went on much as they always had.

And then Liz Truss came along.
 
Just reading some of the quotes from Tory MP's in this BBC article this morning and I'm beginning to think that this might be a time's up thread that's spot on.

"we cannot go on like this indefinitely"

"Dissatisfaction is so high in the parliamentary party"

"hanging by a thread"

"a mega-disaster"

Normally quite good at closing ranks when things are going badly, the Tories, but not right now. Even with a bunch of those quotes being from anonymous sources, it's pretty dire for them.

 
Just reading some of the quotes from Tory MP's in this BBC article this morning and I'm beginning to think that this might be a time's up thread that's spot on.

"we cannot go on like this indefinitely"

"Dissatisfaction is so high in the parliamentary party"

"hanging by a thread"

"a mega-disaster"

Normally quite good at closing ranks when things are going badly, the Tories, but not right now. Even with a bunch of those quotes being from anonymous sources, it's pretty dire for them.

They're much better at closing ranks when they all have a stake in the decision-making process of the government but with one exception the cabinet's full of truss's talentless chums. And when that's the case and there's no impending election to force them onside, many mps will be vocal about their disillusionment
 
Apparently it's the anniversary of David Amess' death, little surprised she didn't come out with 'Today, we are all Amess' or something.
 
It's all bollocks. She was from a wealthy part of Leeds.
yep. Roundhay - leafy middle class suburb and her parents were senior academics. Although certainly having some rough areas, Leeds in the 90s was not some smoke blackened, declining, post industrial ruin - but - like Manchester - well along the road of regenerating itself - particularly the financial and high end retail sector . Plus massive student population and huge club scene. So yeah- utterly disingenuous wank from Truss.
 
Just reading some of the quotes from Tory MP's in this BBC article this morning and I'm beginning to think that this might be a time's up thread that's spot on.

"we cannot go on like this indefinitely"

"Dissatisfaction is so high in the parliamentary party"

"hanging by a thread"

"a mega-disaster"

Normally quite good at closing ranks when things are going badly, the Tories, but not right now. Even with a bunch of those quotes being from anonymous sources, it's pretty dire for them.


Hot air from moaning cowards.

She'll survive til mid Nov and if then gets to Christmas, the next 18 months.
 
yep. Roundhay - leafy middle class suburb and her parents were senior academics. Although certainly having some rough areas, Leeds in the 90s was not some smoke blackened, declining, post industrial ruin - but - like Manchester - well along the road of regenerating itself - particularly the financial and high end retail sector . Plus massive student population and huge club scene. So yeah- utterly disingenuous wank from Truss.

Risible isn't it. I considered Leeds (and Sheffield) for uni in the 90s. It's not like it had a rep as some crime riven wasteland. And as if the daughter of senior academics would be living in the projects...
 
She'll survive til mid Nov and if then gets to Christmas, the next 18 months.

There is no way I'd make that prediction right now. She could very easily be gone in the coming week. Leaders do not normally survive this sort of crisis, this sort of press coverage, this level of party discontent. The main questions in my mind are mostly just to do with the exact timing, and I would not rule out her downfall on any particular day over the next week. What the markets do when they next open will probably have some influence on the timing too.

She threw a grenade, it bounced back and exploded right next to her. She then crawled onto a mine. Her career and credibility are scattered over a wide area, and its only a question of waiting for the parts to fall to earth.

 
There is no way I'd make that prediction right now. She could very easily be gone in the coming week. Leaders do not normally survive this sort of crisis, this sort of press coverage, this level of party discontent. The main questions in my mind are mostly just to do with the exact timing, and I would not rule out her downfall on any particular day over the next week. What the markets do when they next open will probably have some influence on the timing too.

She threw a grenade, it bounced back and exploded right next to her. She then crawled onto a mine. Her career and credibility and scattered over a wide area, and its only a question of waiting for the parts to fall to earth.


But without an actual mechanism for getting rid of her we're reliant on her own sense of decency or sense of shame. And she's Liz Truss.
 
There is no way I'd make that prediction right now. She could very easily be gone in the coming week. Leaders do not normally survive this sort of crisis, this sort of press coverage, this level of party discontent. The main questions in my mind are mostly just to do with the exact timing, and I would not rule out her downfall on any particular day over the next week. What the markets do when they next open will probably have some influence on the timing too.

I am being a bit cavalier prediction wise just for the hell of it. But I do think she'll survive the next few weeks through inertia and no clear path to getting rid or replacing her. Rather than gaining or consolidating support. The markets will settle down in the meantime which will help her. Mid Nov I see as the zenith / culmination of this phase.
 
Risible isn't it. I considered Leeds (and Sheffield) for uni in the 90s. It's not like it had a rep as some crime riven wasteland. And as if the daughter of senior academics would be living in the projects...
She'd likely be a better person now if she had been
 
I am being a bit cavalier prediction wise just for the hell of it. But I do think she'll survive the next few weeks through inertia and no clear path to getting rid or replacing her. Rather than gaining or consolidating support. The markets will settle down in the meantime which will help her. Mid Nov I see as the zenith / culmination of this phase.
There may be no clear path to forcing her out. But you can imagine mps with sadly metaphorical machetes clearing a trail towards that
 
I am being a bit cavalier prediction wise just for the hell of it. But I do think she'll survive the next few weeks through inertia and no clear path to getting rid or replacing her. Rather than gaining or consolidating support. The markets will settle down in the meantime which will help her. Mid Nov I see as the zenith / culmination of this phase.
Whereas to some of us it seems inevitable she will be on the front pages from now until she does do maomaos decent thing.
 
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