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Lib Dem Polls - How Low Can They Go?

Dismal result for the Lib Dems in Bilston North (Wolverhampton) by-election (Lab Gain from Con)

Linda Leach (Labour) 1,292
Marlene Berry (Conservative) 460
Stewart Gardiner (BNP) 131
Barry Hodgson (UKIP) 55
Darren Friel (Lib Dem) 52
 
this article seems to blame clegg for the dip

From the Sunday Times:

Lib Dem troubles deepen as Clegg ratings nosedive
Sunday Times, The (London, England) - Sunday, August 1, 2010 Author: Isabel Oakeshott; David Smith

SUPPORT for the Liberal Democrats has fallen to 12%, a third of the party's peak during the election campaign and half its share of the vote at the election.

Nick Clegg, the party leader and deputy prime minister, has suffered an even sharper slump in popularity, a poll for The Sunday Times reveals.

After the first televised debate during the election campaign he had a popularity rating of 72 points, close to Winston Churchill's at the height of his wartime popularity. Clegg's rating is now eight points.

The Lib Dems have been hit by their role in the coalition in a way that the Tories, on 42% in the YouGov poll of nearly 1,900 people, have not.

Labour is on 38% in the poll, which was carried out on Thursday and Friday.

Clegg's party has not had a lower rating than 12% since October 2007, when Sir Menzies Campbell was forced out as leader. The party had a 23.6% share in the May 6 election.

Clegg has suffered from a perception that he was not honest with voters about policy and abandoned party principles in order to get into government.

YouGov polling shows that Clegg has seen a dramatic change in the public's attitude towards him on a range of measures, including honesty, decisiveness, leadership and being in touch with ordinary people.

His loss of popularity among voters is mirrored by mounting concern in his own party over his judgment. There is incredulity among many Lib Dem MPs over his disclosure last week that he changed his mind in March about the need for immediate economic cuts.

The Sunday Times has learnt that he failed to inform Vince Cable, his shadow chancellor, and both went on to fight the election on a platform of continued spending. One senior Lib Dem said: "That Nick changed his mind on something so important and didn't bother telling anyone is extraordinary. He apparently fought the entire election on a platform he didn't believe in."

Clegg's volte-face has prompted speculation among colleagues that he concluded well before polling day his party might have to go into coalition with the Conservatives and began adjusting his stance on the economy accordingly.

Ed Balls, one of Labour's coalition negotiators, has said he was "astonished" when the Lib Dem negotiating team suddenly demanded immediate cuts during the coalition talks.

A spokesman for Clegg insisted that he had not finally concluded that immediate cuts were necessary until the last week of the election campaign. "The balance was shifting from March, but didn't shift decisively until later," the spokesman said.

Concern over Clegg's declining popularity and the prospect of a serious Tory rebellion have rattled Lib Dem MPs and prompted talk of a delay in the referendum on voting reform. Some Lib Dem MPs now believe that holding the referendum in May is too dangerous, as it could turn into a referendum on the party and its leader. State of the parties Conservative Labour Lib Dem 37% 42% 30% 38% 24% 12% Election Now * YouGov interviewed 1,885 voters online, on July 29-30 Nick Clegg popularity rating April 2010 Now +72 +8
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the labour ratings are interesting, considering they're headless atm - think there's a chance they'll even overtake the tories once they have a leader?
 
Clegg is certainly the weakest link .Going from being mr honest give me a chance ,to a shitbag i want power at all cost.Labour must be happy a year ago they were facing a chasm looking at a tory landslide tory win ,and out of power for a generation to the tories not getting a majority and labour holding a lot of seats.Quite right labour have no leader and no team in place and are polling high
 
"A spokesman for Clegg insisted that he had not finally concluded that immediate cuts were necessary until the last week of the election campaign. "The balance was shifting from March, but didn't shift decisively until later," the spokesman said."

What a cunt.
 
When is that video of him from? The one where he says quick, deep cuts would be a disaster for Britain? April I think. He didn't look much like a man who 'thought the balance was changing" then.
 
Define you then? How else are you making your second line?

The defenders are still here/there.

Still, at least we didn't get PR.
 
no lib dem figures this weekend, but yougov was polling people on other matters:

Cameron is no Blair, says poll
Sunday Times, The (London, England) - Sunday, August 8, 2010
Author: David Smith

DAVID CAMERON is a better international statesman than Gordon Brown but he will never be as good as Tony Blair, according to a YouGov poll for The Sunday Times.

Despite comments on recent international trips that have been condemned as gaffes, the prime minister is seen as better than his predecessor by 45% of people, compared with 27% who think Brown was better.

Only 30% say Cameron is good on the international stage. By 41% to 30% they say he will never be as good as Blair, despite the damage done to the former prime minister's reputation by the Iraq war.

The poll of more than 1,900 people, carried out on Thursday and Friday, backs Cameron's criticism of Pakistan, made on his trip to India last month. The comments came before last week's talks with Asif Ali Zardari, Pakistan's president.

By 66% to 15%, respondents agreed that Cameron was right to say Pakistan "looks both ways" on terrorism and does not do enough to prevent its export.

The poll also backs the idea, floated by the prime minister last week, that new tenants in council and social housing should have a limited term of five or 10 years before they have to make way for others if their circumstances have changed.

The proposal, criticised by Simon Hughes, the Liberal Democrat deputy leader, is supported by 62% and opposed by 32%.

Even among Liberal Democrat supporters there is strong support for the idea, by 67% to 26%. Tory supporters overwhelmingly back it, by 78% to 18%. Labour voters are only narrowly in favour, by 48% to 47%.

There is slightly more encouraging news for the Liberal Democrats in the poll. Asked who was the second most important person in the government after Cameron, Nick Clegg, the deputy prime minister, edged out George Osborne, the chancellor.

Clegg was named by 29% of people, followed by Osborne on 28%, William Hague, the foreign secretary, on 12% and Vince Cable, the business secretary, on 4%.

Clegg's overall popularity rating, 8%, was unchanged last week. The Liberal Democrats as a whole were up one point to 13%, while the Conservatives were unchanged on 42% and Labour slipped by two points to 36%.

In the light of impending cuts in public spending, YouGov asked whether government expenditure on the 2012 Olympic Games should be scaled back, as has been suggested by Jeremy Hunt, the culture secretary.

By almost two to one, 59% to 31%, those polled said such spending should be cut. There is strong backing overall for Britain hosting the Olympics, however, by 59% to 28%.

People were also asked whether museums and art galleries should charge for admission as an alternative to cutting back on opening hours and exhibitions in the light of budget cuts.

By 49% to 42% the poll backed charging in these circumstances. There was stronger support, 68% to 21%, for charging foreign visitors while exempting British people.
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more polling data from FT:

Public support wanes for voting reforms
Financial Times (London, England) - Saturday, August 7, 2010
Author: Barker, Alex ; Pickard, Jim ; Stacey, Kiran

Public backing for a new voting system has slumped in the past three months in a worrying trend for the Liberal Democrat party, which has staked its credibility on a Yes vote.

The Lib Dems entered the coalition with the Conservative party believing their prize would be a long-cherished change in the way Britain votes.

Yet, opinion polls show a sharp fall in support since May for the "alternative vote", under which the public can list candidates in order of preference.

On May 12, only a week after the UK general election, a poll by ComRes found that 59 per cent of people were in favour, with 32 per cent against.

That commanding 27-point lead for the Yes camp has shrivelled since then, according to recent polls by YouGov. Four polls by the organisation in the past month have shown a single-digit lead, with one in mid-July suggesting a mere one-point gap.

Nick Clegg, deputy prime minister and Lib Dem party leader, has spoken to pollsters such as Peter Kellner of YouGov to gauge the likelihood of winning the referendum. Mr Kellner is understood to be sceptical of the chances of a victory.

Many Lib Dems would be devastated by defeat. "This is critical for our party and for the coalition," said one.

Backing for AV has fallen in line with support for the Lib Dems, which has halved since the general election. Four in 10 people who say they voted Lib Dem in May now regretted it, a recent survey suggested.

The referendum is earmarked to coincide with the May local elections, although Tory rebels and Labour MPs are pushing for a September vote.

Many senior Labour figures support AV in principle, but the party has threatened to vote against the relevant bill on the basis that it also includes a "gerrymandering" reform of constituency boundaries.

Tory MPs are to be whipped to pass the reform bill but will then be free to campaign for a No vote.

Many Lib Dems believe they can win, but only with Labour support. Lord Oakeshott, a Lib Dem peer, said that since Labour had a manifesto pledge for an AV referendum, "whoever wins their leadership battle would be mad not to put their weight behind the Yes campaign".

Additional reporting by Kiran Stacey

Interactive graphic at www.ft.com/coalitiontimeline
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some data in toynbee's piece Cameron's Mr Nice act still fools some, but the pain is a wake-up call from yesterday:
David Cameron's hundred days is up next week – and the honeymoon is over. YouGov shows Labour on 37%, Tories on 42%. Approval for the coalition is down from a June peak of +21 to +1 and falling. What makes this extraordinary is that leaderless Labour, semi-absent from the fray, scores more than the Tories won at the election. With Labour likely to choose a clever leader, Cameron might just be as short-lived as his predecessor.
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link: http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/aug/13/cameron-mr-nice-public-sector
 
I see 4 labour MPs have joined the unholy alliance like fucking rats.

And the vision of a huge one party monolith fucking everyone over was anti-communist propaganda!
 
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