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Lib Dem Polls - How Low Can They Go?

The Liberals are almost certainly going to lose control of Newcastle next year (small majority and 26 seats up for grabs in the next election), what other northern cities do they still hold?
 
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Sheff look well vulnerable. York, Hull, Burnely all to fall to labour. Loads of places with split LD/LAb votes and NOC (oldham, sefton, brum, warrington, Kirklees etc) going same way.
 
xenon said:
But their so blatent about turn is sickmaking. They've destroyed they're credibility and demonstrated, they're just the Conservatives sheith.
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Weren't people saying much the same thing in the 1970s, except with respect to Labour?
 
Capitals sheath maybe. Difference is that Labour had (and still do) historic ties to a class block, long entrenched local networks and influence, a history of national power and so on. The lib-dems have precisely none of these to protect them (the lack of significant collective upward social mobility from the w/c over the last 30 years cut off their chances of forming that class block and the cuts will now do the rest). Even after labours terrible 13 years of govt YG still estimate the core votes for each party as Conservative 28.5%, Labour 32.5%, Lib Dem 12%.
 
butchersapron said:
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Sheff look well vulnerable. York, Hull, Burnely all to fall to labour. Loads of places with split LD/LAb votes and NOC (oldham, sefton, brum, warrington, Kirklees etc) going same way.
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Interesting reading. I could easily see dozens of seats being lost to Plaid and Labour in Wales, the SNP and Greens in Scotland, and many parts of England they could lose to realistic challenges from Labour, Tories, Greens, Independents and even small groupings like the Liberals (continuity faction) and RA and community type candidates depending on the area.

They are fucked really, there's a realistic alternative for disgruntled soft Libdem voters (and I'd wager their vote is softer than any other mainstream party (including the Nats) in almost every council area.
 
Any of the people who voted Lib Dem and defended it post coalition still posting on this?

I've got no time for the Labour Party (and the fact that McDonnell got nowhere says it all) but it is hilarious to see the Lib Dems descending into the abyss.

"I want people who voted Liberal Democrat to know, not that they are being taken for a ride in some way - they are absolutely not. I don't take steps without consulting with Nick, we work very, very closely together," he said.
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That is a master stroke.
 
Spanky Longhorn said:
The Liberals are almost certainly going to lose control of Newcastle next year (small majority and 26 seats up for grabs in the next election), what other northern cities do they still hold?
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they're in a scum coalition in preston, but i'd be massively surprised if labour don't take it again next elections - i think they're only 3 or 4 seats off a majority.
 
i am no statistician, but i am not entirely sure how reprsentative the scottish polling numbers are for the rest of the country.

also... is anyone here worried about labour being pushed to the right again? i am referring to the prisoner announcement made by that clarke swine. labour had to come out and say that the crime went down because people are being put in prisons and that the prisons are effective crime fighting means. it just sounds like something michael howard would say. am i being naive here?
 
little_legs said:
i am no statistician, but i am not entirely sure how reprsentative the scottish polling numbers are for the rest of the country.
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The Scottish figures are within the national polling figures. They're not the Scottish figures being extrapolated across the whole country.
 
butchersapron said:
That labour figure for Scotland is pretty remarkable too - 49%
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It is yes, Labour would be crowing about that. However in reality all it would meaqn is more wankers with the Labour rosette representing working people up here.... Echoes of the 'feeble fifty'.
 
Fedayn said:
It is yes, Labour would be crowing about that. However in reality all it would meaqn is more wankers with the Labour rosette representing working people up here.... Echoes of the 'feeble fifty'.
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Back to the 1980s.
 
Due to not being completetely annihilated in the GE(just look at how many NL figures are still in the HOC) I get the impression the LP doesn't feel any real need to change, just to update its presentation.
 
One of my friends who had a Lib dem Logo as his profile picture has now removed the liberal democrats from his list of pages, i know that sounds really daft but at one point about 20 of my friends were fans of the lib dems and now that is down by about half lol.
 
butchersapron said:
Using YG's figures, since the General Election

Tory +7%
Labour +8%
Lib dems -13%.
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On the left we've heard about all those disillusioned LDs coming over to L but if that's right then about as many LD voters have defected to C as to L. Presumably because they are right of centre and see no point in supporting the junior partner in a coalition? Would be interesting to find out.
 
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