Lib Dem Polls - How Low Can They Go?
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butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Proper Tidy
Arsed
Call them all cunts and picket their homes, should convince them
Proper Tidy
Arsed
I'll call them all cunts on your facebook if you like
Proper Tidy
Arsed
I'm only joking, I'm not going to deface your facebook. I'm just in the mood for calling people cunts.
Streathamite
ideological dogmatist
that's rather a relief to hear!
I read that as throwing a leaving party, which I think would be quite a pointed way for local Lib Dems to underline their disgust when renouncing their membership.
Streathamite
ideological dogmatist
very good!
the button
out on the kocker
This is my longest-running thread ever. 
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
This is my longest-running thread ever.
Let us hope that it runs a while longer.
But not too long.
Con 40% Lab 42% Ldem 9%
http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/blog/
combined con dem vote only 7 points ahead
http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/blog/
combined con dem vote only 7 points ahead
moochedit
I'm not feeding seagulls
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Ashcroft has paid for a survey (pdf)of 2000 lib-dem votes in lib-dem seats i.e the key lib-dem voters, the ones who'll decide if they retain MPs (as they're not going to be picking up any new ones).
Key figures seem to be 36% of Lib Dem voters say they wouldn’t have voted Lib Dem at the last election had they known the party was going to enter coalition with the Conservatives -and 46% say they won't vote lib-dem again - that's in existing lib-dem seats remember, where support may be taken to be harder than elsewhere. If that feeds through to the next general election they're going to lose all their south-west seats and all their city seats.
If you look at how these lib-dem voters with lib-dem seats feel about how the coalition has gone only small minorities believe they've achieved anything good from the coalition, which gives grounds for suggesting that the figures may yet worsen before 2015. The absolute best finding was that 37% though they'd managed to improve welfare. Their best result.
A gap is also clearly opening up between the position that the coalition was the right thing to do in the circumstances at that time and that they're doing well/the right thing today. Previously support for the former view was pretty firmly attached to support for the latter - it's no longer. That's a really useful gap/contradiction that should be worked on.
Key figures seem to be 36% of Lib Dem voters say they wouldn’t have voted Lib Dem at the last election had they known the party was going to enter coalition with the Conservatives -and 46% say they won't vote lib-dem again - that's in existing lib-dem seats remember, where support may be taken to be harder than elsewhere. If that feeds through to the next general election they're going to lose all their south-west seats and all their city seats.
If you look at how these lib-dem voters with lib-dem seats feel about how the coalition has gone only small minorities believe they've achieved anything good from the coalition, which gives grounds for suggesting that the figures may yet worsen before 2015. The absolute best finding was that 37% though they'd managed to improve welfare. Their best result.
A gap is also clearly opening up between the position that the coalition was the right thing to do in the circumstances at that time and that they're doing well/the right thing today. Previously support for the former view was pretty firmly attached to support for the latter - it's no longer. That's a really useful gap/contradiction that should be worked on.
little_legs
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The Sunday Times, Dec. 12:
Plumdaff
joy in people
What do we think about the possibility of a split, and how soon? If I was Charles Kennedy (or any of the other LD "left" who voted against tuition fee rises) I'd be putting some serious distance between myself and the Orange Bookers. The only LDers I can see still winning are in the Highlands and SW if they're seen to be independent of the coalition. Similiarly I wouldn't be surprised if Clegg and Cable either join or get some non-aggression pact after their services to Toryism.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Seems they're at least aware of the potential problem Shy Lib-dems
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
41/42/9
Approval -14
Lib-dems steadying at under 9, approval rating for govt showing two record minusi in one week
Approval -14
Lib-dems steadying at under 9, approval rating for govt showing two record minusi in one week
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
39/42/9
Approval -15. Lowest yet.
Approval -15. Lowest yet.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
intersting comment from the Guardian o :
Wouldn't bother with any ideas of a split quite yet but Huhns '"two years of immense unpopularity" isn't going to be painless in the Council elections in 2011
Wouldn't bother with any ideas of a split quite yet but Huhns '"two years of immense unpopularity" isn't going to be painless in the Council elections in 2011
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
fucked
Something potentially electorally significant from Ipsos-Mori (who incidentally have the lib-dems down to 11% nationally in their monthly poll - they've been polling them higher than YG until recently) - regional breakdown of lib-dem support - this is slightly skewed as it includes the immediate post-coalition period as well, before the lib-dems really started their terminal decline, so the true picture may well be even worse for them.
Support in the NE is 4%
In their utterly crucial SW region there has been a 16% swing from lib-dem to labour and support has dropped from 35% in the GE to 16% now. This is their best area remember.
London is on 10%, an 11% swing to labour.
Every single region has a lib-dem to labour swing.
Something potentially electorally significant from Ipsos-Mori (who incidentally have the lib-dems down to 11% nationally in their monthly poll - they've been polling them higher than YG until recently) - regional breakdown of lib-dem support - this is slightly skewed as it includes the immediate post-coalition period as well, before the lib-dems really started their terminal decline, so the true picture may well be even worse for them.
Support in the NE is 4%
In their utterly crucial SW region there has been a 16% swing from lib-dem to labour and support has dropped from 35% in the GE to 16% now. This is their best area remember.
London is on 10%, an 11% swing to labour.
Every single region has a lib-dem to labour swing.
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