Lee Harvey Oswald was trained by the CIA, declassified memo reveals
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DaveCinzano
WATCH OUT, GEORGE, HE'S GOT A SCREWDRIVER!
pish!
everyone knows this
is the chap that killed jfk
everyone knows this
is the chap that killed jfk
This is why governments get away with so much shit.
Because when they are eventually found out people still don't want to believe it. Or can't be bothered because it was a long time ago. I can't believe the pathetic response to this.
"Oswald was a cia agent"
"Prove it"
"Here's an official government memo"
"I've gone blind and I don't care and you're still a tinfoil hatter anyway so there".
Doesn't matter if you're looking at Kennedy, Martin Luther King, Lennon, or any other symbolic leader who threatened certain power structures. They all get bleedin offed don't they.
And by "lone gunmen"
"How long shall they kill our prophets while we stand aside and look?"
Because when they are eventually found out people still don't want to believe it. Or can't be bothered because it was a long time ago. I can't believe the pathetic response to this.
"Oswald was a cia agent"
"Prove it"
"Here's an official government memo"
"I've gone blind and I don't care and you're still a tinfoil hatter anyway so there".
Doesn't matter if you're looking at Kennedy, Martin Luther King, Lennon, or any other symbolic leader who threatened certain power structures. They all get bleedin offed don't they.
And by "lone gunmen"
"How long shall they kill our prophets while we stand aside and look?"
Masseuse does have a valid point methinks...Masseuse said:This is why governments get away with so much shit.
Because when they are eventually found out people still don't want to believe it. Or can't be bothered because it was a long time ago. I can't believe the pathetic response to this.
"Oswald was a cia agent"
"Prove it"
"Here's an official government memo"
"I've gone blind and I don't care and you're still a tinfoil hatter anyway so there".
Doesn't matter if you're looking at Kennedy, Martin Luther King, Lennon, or any other symbolic leader who threatened certain power structures. They all get bleedin offed don't they.
And by "lone gunmen"
"How long shall they kill our prophets while we stand aside and look?"
DaveCinzano
WATCH OUT, GEORGE, HE'S GOT A SCREWDRIVER!
there are far more pressing matters to hand than working out the precise breed causing the fishy stink under the corpse of jack (or bobby, or daresay malcolm or martin).
over the years there have been countless 'definitive' analyses of conspiracy and/or cover-up; countless 'confessions' by guilty men, accessories to the fact and subsequent to the fact. the mountains of scholarly works and the fruitcake green ink studies alike, let alone the classified documents periodically buried and unearthed, and then buried again, represent such a colossal reading pile that no one - no one - could ever hope to (i) absorb all the information; (ii) weed out the red herrings; and (iii) synthesise the truly useful documents into a credible, truthful narrative.
the star-fucker is gone.
governments and their agents do terrible, brutal, horrible, cruel, inhuman things. they did them then, and they do them now. so let's concentrate on the now, and the future too. let's arm ourselves with knowledge and understanding, and a love of life and honesty and a grim determination to avenge the victims, to honour the dead, and protect the innocent.
somebody got away with it in 63. but let's not pretend it's not happening today. and what matters more - 41 yearsback, about which we can do nothing tangible, or now, when we can do so much?
over the years there have been countless 'definitive' analyses of conspiracy and/or cover-up; countless 'confessions' by guilty men, accessories to the fact and subsequent to the fact. the mountains of scholarly works and the fruitcake green ink studies alike, let alone the classified documents periodically buried and unearthed, and then buried again, represent such a colossal reading pile that no one - no one - could ever hope to (i) absorb all the information; (ii) weed out the red herrings; and (iii) synthesise the truly useful documents into a credible, truthful narrative.
the star-fucker is gone.
governments and their agents do terrible, brutal, horrible, cruel, inhuman things. they did them then, and they do them now. so let's concentrate on the now, and the future too. let's arm ourselves with knowledge and understanding, and a love of life and honesty and a grim determination to avenge the victims, to honour the dead, and protect the innocent.
somebody got away with it in 63. but let's not pretend it's not happening today. and what matters more - 41 yearsback, about which we can do nothing tangible, or now, when we can do so much?
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
pk said:
PK, I don't disagree with you on the generality of CT stuff. As far as I'm concerned, a lot of it is total and utter nonsense.
HOWEVER, As far as Oswald/JFK is concerned, I'm interested from a historical perspective in information like this, as it helps to establish a better, more rounded picture of the historical character call Lee Harvey Oswald.
DaveCinzano
WATCH OUT, GEORGE, HE'S GOT A SCREWDRIVER!
remember my lai.
remember pine ridge.
remember waco.
remember gandalf.
remember mark barnsley.
remember srebenica.
remember bougainville.
remember thessaloniki.
remember...
big, small, bad, badder, evil.
we remember, but we must also act.
remember pine ridge.
remember waco.
remember gandalf.
remember mark barnsley.
remember srebenica.
remember bougainville.
remember thessaloniki.
remember...
big, small, bad, badder, evil.
we remember, but we must also act.
silentNate
1.618 xakep
Jusdt to point out that the picture Dr Jazzz is refering to is from davidicke. com 
Remember- 8ft invisible lizards did it
Remember- 8ft invisible lizards did it
bristle-krs said:
Quite right Mr Krs. But the past does inform the present and gives us the tools to fight for the future.
I can see where you're going, but I really don't believe it is a good thing to ignore the lies of history. We do need to put them right when and where we can.
Black history is a case in point. Do we really want the lies purporting to be historical fact taught in our schools?
DaveCinzano
WATCH OUT, GEORGE, HE'S GOT A SCREWDRIVER!
Masseuse said:
it's about choosing your battleground though, isn't it?
there is quite simply too much information on the jfk thing - and not to mention the disinformation. too much to draw any serious conclusions.
there are so many holes in our collective knowledge, why get stuck up on one single, grotty episode - was one man so deserving? a man baptised in napalm and a mekong of blood?
bristle-krs said:
But it's not about the man himself - it's about the way the establishment (for want of a better word) does things. Kennedy was no saint, I agree.
So the question is, what battleground do we choose?
American history is littered with atrocity. And each is denied or dismissed as some sort of blip, down to the President in office at the time. Watergate for instance. Heralded as a triumph of truth and justice over a corrupt government. What utter bollocks. It only served to perpetuate the myth that government is truthful and good! That Nixon was the only President to lie!
Governments are about accumulating wealth and power at any cost. Any cost. They lie and they kill to keep the status quo. That's the issue. I don't think any evidence supporting this should be shot down in flames in the way it has been in this thread.
This is about whatever godawful system is really running America. It ain't about Kennedy or Martin or Luther, but about the machine they got in the way of. This machine is still grinding on. What are we going to do about it?
Take the piss out of anyone who draws attention to it, that's what.
FridgeMagnet
Administrator
Well, where's this memo come from then?
silentNate
1.618 xakep
Pictures taken from davidicke.com
But apparently Massuesse and Dr J have no problem going along with the ramblings of a mentally disturbed man
But apparently Massuesse and Dr J have no problem going along with the ramblings of a mentally disturbed man
DaveCinzano
WATCH OUT, GEORGE, HE'S GOT A SCREWDRIVER!
Masseuse said:
i don't disagree with you on this principle. i can't.
but we have to be pragmatic. the war continues - a dirty, bloody, brutal conflict in which we are the casualties. but the choice is ours: to fight lost battles from the past, or to win victories today, tomorrow..?
we know bad things happened back then. but do we expend all our energy exactly who did what when and for what motive, forty-one long years ago? or do we accept that yes, there was evil afoot, even though we are not entirely sure what precise form that evil took, and move forward to tackle the evil that lurks today?
we don't have the resources, the time, the energy, the tools, to divine the whole truth of that sordid chapter. but what we do have is a real and just as potent evil to tackle here, to tackle now.
choose ya weapon.
DaveCinzano
WATCH OUT, GEORGE, HE'S GOT A SCREWDRIVER!
...in the book depository...
FridgeMagnet
Administrator
and a magic water pistol
FridgeMagnet
Administrator
Well, it would *appear* that way, wouldn't it? I trust you have carefully researched this particular document's origins though before posting it, and can now give us a run-down of them....DrJazzz said:
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