Labour leadership

[Dandred]

Working class cunts.

 

[killer b]

What did you do, other than vote?

 

[ViolentPanda]

I've got a fiver on Chuka Umunna if anyone wants it. He seems like just the kind of leader that the PR people and party technocrats would love as he's pretty much a blank slate, but a competent and presentable one.

Competence is in the eye of the beholder.
Is he good at schmoozing the City? Yep.
Is he a halfway-decent constituency MP? Is he fuck!

 

[ViolentPanda]

I don't know most of these politicians from Adam. I can judge them based on their public appeal and then, if they become leader, judge them on the manifesto they come up with.

People in this thread are suggesting Chuka. What makes him a good candidate? People probably like the way he talks and think he'd be a good communicator.

He is a good communicator when it comes to big business.
It's just a pity that apart from being personable to people with power, and being part of the ruling class (daddy was a colonial high court judge), he's fucking useless, and a gobshite.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Burnham just isn't bright enough, imo.

Yvette Cooper hasn't really got proper leadership qualities.

Chucka could do a reasonable impression of George Osborne as a Labour tough cop.

Probably too soon for Rachael Reeves, plus the baby is due soon anyway.

Very difficult.

Any...you know...evidence to support your analyses?

 

[ViolentPanda]

And what are your suggestions?

That you're an ignorant dick.

HTH HAND

 

[agricola]

they were generally put in the shadow cabinet to have them in the tent pissing out rather than outside pissing in.

Sadly though all we are left with now is a tent that reeks of piss.

 

[Grandma Death]

Chuka's an empty vessel, so he'd be perfect for the right of the party, and he'd play really well with the middle class wiberal vote that Labour cultivate. Plus they could score loads of wiberal points because he's (ruling class) black.

This

 

[Up the junction]

Goodness, what an intimidating hive mind.

Well done everyone for getting so much right about this election. All those months of putting up messages on U75 wasn't wasted.

 

[butchersapron]

Its worth bearing in mind that the election process has changed even from Miliband's election as leader. No election colleges, nomination is 35 MPs, one person one vote across membership, affiliated bodies (i.e. unions etc.) and registered supporters. Could be interesting.

How you mean one person one vote across affiliated bodies? They don't each make up 33% each now? How is one person one vote going to work?

 

[ViolentPanda]

Goodness, what an intimidating hive mind.

Well done everyone for getting so much right about this election. All those months of putting up messages on U75 wasn't wasted.

Whatevs, knobchops. Whatevs.

 

[Pickman's model]

Sadly though all we are left with now is a tent that reeks of piss.

in a field in the fucking middle of nowhere which is filled with detritus of every sort

 

[Pickman's model]

Goodness, what an intimidating hive mind.

Well done everyone for getting so much right about this election. All those months of putting up messages on U75 wasn't wasted.

for all your sound and fury you er signify nothing

 

[DotCommunist]

I was counted, were you?

no. I wasn't counted by any of the parties offered on the sheet. They all think I'm lumpen scum that should fuck off.

Who were you counted by? made you feel special did it? fucking prat

 

[oryx]

Competence is in the eye of the beholder.
Is he good at schmoozing the City? Yep.
Is he a halfway-decent constituency MP? Is he fuck!

Sadly while it really should, I'm not sure that being a good constituency counts that much when it comes to the high end.

Can't see it being Ummuna as he's too inexperienced. More likely Cooper or Burnham. So far, I'd like to see Burnham.

Please not fucking Reeves. I saw her speaking the other day and her charisma is such that it makes Miliband look like JFK. Plus her hateful comments about Labour being the party of working people.

 

[DotCommunist]

I've got a fiver on Chuka Umunna if anyone wants it. He seems like just the kind of leader that the PR people and party technocrats would love as he's pretty much a blank slate, but a competent and presentable one.

hold on, I've already claimed the fivers on that front. Because I am a good socialist you can share the winnings with me. But don't go around like the fiver Baron claiming up all the fivers. Its not correct.

 

[coley]

He is a good communicator when it comes to big business.
It's just a pity that apart from being personable to people with power, and being part of the ruling class (daddy was a colonial high court judge), he's fucking useless, and a gobshite.

I honestly thought he was Tory the first few times I saw him on the box, he just so looks and sounds 'the part'

 

[ViolentPanda]

Sadly while it really should, I'm not sure that being a good constituency counts that much when it comes to the high end.

Can't see it being Ummuna as he's too inexperienced. More likely Cooper or Burnham. So far, I'd like to see Burnham.

Umunna is more malleable IMO. Cooper or Burnham have a fragment more political maturity (although they're equally asideologically-lightweight as Chuckles is)

Please not fucking Reeves. I saw her speaking the other day and her charisma is such that it makes Miliband look like JFK. Plus her hateful comments about Labour being the party of working people.

The woman has all the charisma of an un-darned sock, doesn't she?

 

[ViolentPanda]

I honestly thought he was Tory the first few times I saw him on the box, he just so looks and sounds 'the part'

Yup.
The first time someone said "he's like a British Obama", my reply was "because he's black and a politician, not because he's got enough skill to run first a state, then an entire country".
He's horribly glib too, and always plays to the audience.

 

[coley]

Yup.
The first time someone said "he's like a British Obama", my reply was "because he's black and a politician, not because he's got enough skill to run first a state, then an entire country".
He's horribly glib too, and always plays to the audience.

Think there's any chance he might 'flip' ?

 

[ViolentPanda]

Think there's any chance he might 'flip' ?

Probably not - that'd show him up as an arch-opportunist, and he's desperate for "the right people" to like him.

 

[jannerboyuk]

How you mean one person one vote across affiliated bodies? They don't each make up 33% each now? How is one person one vote going to work?

Sorry to cause confusion, I just mean you qualify for a vote as a member of the party or affiliated body and or registered supporter

 

[butchersapron]

Sorry to cause confusion, I just mean you qualify for a vote as a member of the party or affiliated body and or registered supporter

Same regs as before

Maurice johnson being bothered.

 

[Corax]

For me - Cooper or Burnham, with a pre-planned re-election after 2 years.

 

[Corax]

Dan Jarvis too. He'd probably be shit for all I know, but he'd win votes...

 

[jannerboyuk]

Same regs as before

Maurice johnson being bothered.

Not really as there are no colleges, at least that's how I read this

 

[coley]

Probably not - that'd show him up as an arch-opportunist, and he's desperate for "the right people" to like him.

Whey, " arch opportunism" seems to be a fairly common trait in politics, and the " right people" are now firmly ensconced in Westminster, pardon me while I have a good howk, but your closer to that kind of action and see these people daily, so we will wait and see.
I would prefer 'wait and shoot'

 

[ViolentPanda]

Whey, " arch opportunism" seems to be a fairly common trait in politics, and the " right people" are now firmly ensconced in Westminster, pardon me while I have a good howk, but your closer to that kind of action and see these people daily, so we will wait and see.
I would prefer 'wait and shoot'

When I say "arch-opportunist" about a politician, it means "an arch-opportunist beyond what we normally expect from a politician".

 

[oryx]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-32654262

I did suggest Hunt (not that I particularly like him) might be in the running and my partner laughed at me!

Never even heard of Liz Kendall.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

Chuka.