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gimesumtruf said:
He has decided a question, I will not push the nuclear button.
First for a chance to push the button you have to be in power.
He has given away a world stage bargaining chip.
He has let a reporter get the better of him.
He could have said to use the button is a state secret and will remain so.
It'll take years to replace jobs and decommission so why show your hand?
As was said on Question Time he has ruled out talking about it with his party, no means no.
He has had 30 years to think and debate about this stuff.
Lastly he knows he's made a big mistake, this nice man will not win, I think he knows this.
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Drivel.
 
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gimesumtruf said:
He has let a reporter get the better of him.
He could have said to use the button is a state secret and will remain so.
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Mate, Corbyn is a lifelong member of CND and has spoken in favour of nuclear disarmament on countless occasions. He's just been overwhelmingly elected on a programme of anti-austerity, justice and peace. The whole reason why he's leader is because he's someone who stands up for his beliefs, and for doing the right thing. For him to say now that he might consider pressing the button would have no credibility, it would be laughed out of court. It would also damage him politically because that's not why people support him.
 
voiceofreason said:
Mate, Corbyn is a lifelong member of CND and has spoken in favour of nuclear disarmament on countless occasions. He's just been overwhelmingly elected on a programme of anti-austerity, justice and peace. The whole reason why he's leader is because he's someone who stands up for his beliefs, and for doing the right thing. For him to say now that he might consider pressing the button would have no credibility, it would be laughed out of court. It would also damage him politically because that's not why people support him.
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I understand and I'm with him and his beliefs all the the way. You don't have to lie to hang on to principles, you can be a politician and keep answers neutral.
He had most of his party come out against him straight away(can't row back), now all he has to do is persuade the rest of the country that he wont protect them.
Follow his logic and he can't remain in Nato, good luck with that.
 
gimesumtruf said:
I understand and I'm with him and his beliefs all the the way. You don't have to lie to hang on to principles, you can be a politician and keep answers neutral.
He had most of his party come out against him straight away(can't row back), now all he has to do is persuade the rest of the country that he wont protect them.
Follow his logic and he can't remain in Nato, good luck with that.
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Marvelous strategy - when posed a yes/no question, make it it look like you want to tell the truth but haven't the principles to do so.
 
I agree with JC on ruling out the use of nuclear weapons but he really shouldn't have said it.

He has a fundamental misunderstanding of leadership and politics if he thinks he can say this and lead the country. He is a breath of fresh air but i cant see it being enough to win an election unfortunately. Even against a pig fucker who screws as many of the population as he can.

I wish I didnt think this, because with leadership skills I think he would make a good prime minister. Shoot me now but he needs a world class spin doctor asap.
 
I agree with JC on ruling out the use of nuclear weapons but he really shouldn't have said it.

He has a fundamental misunderstanding of leadership and politics if he thinks he can say this and lead the country. He is a breath of fresh air but i cant see it being enough to win an election unfortunately. Even against a pig fucker who screws as many of the population as he can.

I wish I didnt think this, because with leadership skills I think he would make a good prime minister. Shoot me now but he needs a world class spin doctor asap.
 
Belushi said:
Are people really complaining about a politician being honest? :facepalm::D
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I was just wondering about that :)

The statment on nukes lies where politics meets diplomacy. It is the conventional wisdom that diplomats speak in a deeply coded argot.

I am now trying to imagine a diplomatic conference at which everyone says what they really think :D
 
laptop said:
I was just wondering about that :)

The statment on nukes lies where politics meets diplomacy. It is the conventional wisdom that diplomats speak in a deeply coded argot.

I am now trying to imagine a diplomatic conference at which everyone says what they really think :D
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Still puzzling...
 
As well as just being an honest answer, the statement on nukes is surely also a challenge to the pro-nuclear faction in his party: 'Well, would you press that button? Would you? And if not, wtsufferingf are you pro-Trident for?'

I reckon he's going to win the argument on Trident within the Labour Party. And I think this statement forms a big part of that.
 
littlebabyjesus said:
As well as just being an honest answer, the statement on nukes is surely also a challenge to the pro-nuclear faction in his party: 'Well, would you press that button? Would you? And if not, wtsufferingf are you pro-Trident for?'

I reckon he's going to win the argument on Trident within the Labour Party. And I think this statement forms a big part of that.
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I reckon he isn't goint to win the argument and the Labour Party are going to have an official position of keeping trident while their leader promises never to use it. A position that pleases exactly nobody.
 
Knotted said:
I reckon he isn't goint to win the argument and the Labour Party are going to have an official position of keeping trident while their leader promises never to use it. A position that pleases exactly nobody.
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Well, one of us will be right.

McDonnell's firmly anti-Trident, too, and has already stated on national TV that the money would be better spent on schools and hospitals. Be odd to have the leader opposing it on principle and the shadow chancellor saying it's a waste of money, and to still commit to keeping it.
 
No:- just be smart like the opposition who get rat fink Addonis to jump ship.
You fuckin clown, how many more times
Ok clown NATO has nuclear weapons. Are you telling me or anyone he is going to leave Nato because Britain will not go for that.
Will he stay in Nato and have other countries use the bomb for us. HE WILL NEVER BE ELECTED TO OFFICE.
You are annoying!
 
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gimesumtruf said:
No:- just be smart like the opposition who get rat fink Addonis to jump ship.
You fuckin clown, how many more times
Ok clown NATO has nuclear weapons. Are you telling me or anyone he is going to leave Nato because Britain will not go for that.
Will he stay in Nato and have other countries use the bomb for us. HE WILL NEVER BE ELECTED TO OFFICE.
You are annoying!
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Are there NATO countries which don't have nuclear weapons?

Cheers - Louis MacNeice
 
killer b said:
He's keeping his LP membership but resigning the whip - sounds like the kind of thing that would get the rank & file expelled. :hmm:
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