Labour leadership

[free spirit]

If he did win, and if he then won the next election it would really give the lie to the entire rationale that new labour used to take over the party, and basically destroy their excuses for their lurch to the right.

 

[DotCommunist]

the labour right do love to pull the anti semite card. Look how often they done it to Ken of Keningrad. Nauseating shit really

 

[Wilf]

... oh yes, and he'll unravel the NI peace process:

The fourth candidate, Liz Kendall, said in the Birmingham Mail that a perception Corbyn was sympathetic to the IRA would make it harder to maintain peace in Northern Ireland. She also asked her supporters not to choose Corbyn for their second or third preference and to put down Burnham or Cooper in either order instead.

- Guardian (can't be arsed linking to it, they are coming too thick and fast now).

 

[Favelado]

That Liz Kendall rally is almost tempting me to go and laugh. It looked like she had 150 people RSVPd, but 100 of them are from one poster called Jeremy Corbyn, with 99 guests.

If you're having poll problems I feel bad for you son. She's got 99 guests but Liz ain't won.

 

[teqniq]

Classy

 

[Wilf]

Labour Leadership Campaign Latest: 'How the weirdy beardo wiped out the dinosaurs and gave National Treasure David Attenborough a Chinese Burn, all before his oddball veggie lunchtime'. In other pages, 'Angela Rippon, my Corbyn dogging nightmare'. Sport: 'Is Sepp Blatter an anagram of Jeremy Corbyn?'

 

[teqniq]

I am finding it painfully funny.

 

[Wilf]

I am finding it painfully funny.

Pain? I suggest a homeopathic cure:
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jul/17/homeopathy-idiots-science-jeremy-corbyn

 

[teqniq]

Aaaaargh!

 

[Dandred]

I really hope he wins, I might even splash out 3 quid.

I love how the labor party are trying to throw themselves under the bus to make themselves look more like the Tories!

 

[joustmaster]

I really hope he wins, I might even splash out 3 quid.

You're too late to pay your three quid, now...

 

[two sheds]

More pathetic flailing from The Guardian (apols if has been linked to before).

Cooper has taken on Corbyn, gloves off. Could this be a knockout blow?

This morning in Manchester Yvette Cooper takes on the Corbyn arguments, gloves off. No, it’s not personal: there have been few personal attacks on this well-liked and thoroughly authentic MP. It’s Corbyn’s key policies she warns will send Labour deeper into the wilderness. As an economist, she explains why printing money in more quantitative easing for spending will never be credible. She’s right.

and again: "there have been few personal attacks on this well-liked and thoroughly authentic MP"

From Polly Toynbee - her love of 'last chances' shows again with the last chance for labour voters this time, again.

 

[Zabo]

Nut job Kendall on R4 Today 7:35. She keeps rabbiting on about Our Labour Values yet I have to hear her articulate what those values are? I suppose we don't really need to be told as we have know damn well what they are.

 

[JimW]

Nut job Kendall on R4 Today 7:35. She keeps rabbiting on about Our Labour Values yet I have to hear her articulate what those values are? I suppose we don't really need to be told as we have know damn well what they are.

Just heard that. She's whatever the polar opposite of engaging is, like some smug speech from a particularly dim head girl.

 

[andysays]

More pathetic flailing from The Guardian (apols if has been linked to before).

Cooper has taken on Corbyn, gloves off. Could this be a knockout blow?

and again: "there have been few personal attacks on this well-liked and thoroughly authentic MP"

Her love of 'last chances' shows again with the last chance for labour voters this time, again.

If I were Toynbee's editor, I'd have told her she has one last chance to stop using that well-worn old trope and find something new...

Anyway, I've been thinking recently that Burnham has played this far more sensibly than either Cooper or Kendall, avoiding coming out with any of this "we must stop Corbyn at all costs" business. On the radio yesterday he was still talking about party unity and saying he would be prepared to serve in anyone's shadow cabinet.

If, as I've seen suggested somewhere, Corbyn is thinking in terms of being a temporary leader and planning to step down to allow someone else to fight the next GE, Burnham could yet be in with a chance of the leadership. But if, as looks increasingly likely, Kendall and Cooper's combo of not having much of substance to offer and rubbishing the eventual winner so blatently leaves them doing badly, any chance either of them might have had at a second attempt looks pretty much shot.

 

[two sheds]

Yes all the Corbyn hate mail from within the Labour party is handing ready-made quotes to the tories come election time.

 

[billy_bob]

Pretty sure Blair isn't troubled by money issues mate.

Wasn't suggesting he was - he (and his wife for that matter) has always shown willingness to do gigs not consistent with a dignified, statesmanlike post-PM-ship for the right price, regardless of whether he needs the readies or not.

No I think Blair believes his own shit and has so lost whatever grasp he had on politics that he actually thinks he is helping

Certainly thinks he's gracing us with his wise words and we should be grateful. Whether he actually cares about the LP's fortunes per se is a different matter.

For sure, if Corbyn does have a landslide win and is part of a reinvigoration of the left, it further damages the remnants of Blair's 'legacy' because it refutes his orthodoxy that the party has no choice but to leave all that stuff in the 1970s and continue tacking to the right.

 

[kabbes]

Nut job Kendall on R4 Today 7:35. She keeps rabbiting on about Our Labour Values yet I have to hear her articulate what those values are? I suppose we don't really need to be told as we have know damn well what they are.

I'm torn between thinking she genuinely doesn't know what Labour's values are and thus doesn't want to say and thinking she knows damn well that it's a murky hodge-podge of its traditional socialism and Blaritie new-liberalism and is thus hoping to use the "big lie" technique to keep saying what she wants it to be in order to make that the new reality.

 

[goldenecitrone]

Labour needs a major shake up and a Corbyn win will surely give it that. No idea if he can win the 2020 election, but the opportunity for Labour to actually provide some real opposition to the Tory twats over the next few years is the main reason I am hoping for a Corbyn victory.

 

[Favelado]

Toynbee's article is yet another one suggesting that ordinary readers are too thick to understand what they're voting for. They're mad, passionate idealists whose heart has got the better of them.

Condescending shit from Britain's most patronising newspaper.

 

[Steel Icarus]

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[redsquirrel]

Just heard that. She's whatever the polar opposite of engaging is, like some smug speech from a particularly dim head girl.

She is terrible, I'm amazed that the Blairites can't find someone less shit than her. That interview she did with Marr posted some pages back is abysmal - it's not that she even say's anything that objectionable it's the fact that she doesn't say a single word that isn't some empty fucking soundbite.

 

[SpookyFrank]

More pathetic flailing from The Guardian (apols if has been linked to before).

Cooper has taken on Corbyn, gloves off. Could this be a knockout blow?



and again: "there have been few personal attacks on this well-liked and thoroughly authentic MP"

From Polly Toynbee - her love of 'last chances' shows again with the last chance for labour voters this time, again.

Could it be a knock out blow? No, Corbyn is miles ahead. As for 'gloves off' well that would imply that the gloves were, at some point, on.

 

[two sheds]

It looks like Toynbee actually came up with the 'gloves are off' phrase and some cleverclever subed introduced the 'knock out blow' headline. She must be embarrassed as hell if so.

 

[SpookyFrank]

It looks like Toynbee actually came up with the 'gloves are off' phrase and some cleverclever subed introduced the 'knock out blow' headline. She must be embarrassed as hell if so.

Toynbee doesn't strike me as the sort of person who is susceptible to any kind of shame.

 

[mauvais]

Could it be a knock out blow? No, Corbyn is miles ahead. As for 'gloves off' well that would imply that the gloves were, at some point, on.

It's not specified who will be knocked out.

 

[SpookyFrank]

It continues:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-33921047

Liz Kendall has urged her supporters to back anyone other than Jeremy Corbyn in the Labour leadership contest.

She told the BBC Labour risked sending a "resignation letter to the British people as a serious party of government" by electing Mr Corbyn.

She told The Independent voters should mark Andy Burnham or Yvette Cooper as second and third preferences, and avoid giving votes to the frontrunner.

Liz Kendall has urged her supporters, or 'Greg' as she usually calls him...

Still waiting for anyone to explain why voting for Corbyn will doom us all, or why we should listen to a bunch of people who just lost an election talking about who can and can't get elected.

 

[killer b]

Toynbee doesn't strike me as the sort of person who is susceptible to any kind of shame.

She certainly isn't. The party she stood for parliament for in 1983 did more than anything else to keep Labour out of power for a generation (In Lewisham East she basically handed the seat to the Tories) - that she now has the gall to try and use the spectre of 1983 to influence Labour members to tack right is breathtaking. Totol cunt.

 

[SpookyFrank]

It's not specified who will be knocked out.

Toynbee, with any luck.

 

[brogdale]

It continues:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-33921047



Liz Kendall has urged her supporters, or 'Greg' as she usually calls him...

Still waiting for anyone to explain why voting for Corbyn will doom us all, or why we should listen to a bunch of people who just lost an election talking about who can and can't get elected.

I never had him down as that right-wing, but....you never know with these rich slebs.