bendeus
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I'm reading this with a Tammy Wynette voice to the tune of Justified and Ancient by the KLF
Labour leadership
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nino_savatte
No pasaran!
Bring it on!
mauvais
on reddit or something
Not the opposite? I dunno about Wynette but it's easy to imagine Drummond chanting it.
bendeus
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Sorry for derail - imagine Idris' lyrics overlaid from the bit where she sings 'They called me up in Tennessee'
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
Alan Bennett's version would be The Old Labour in The Vanguard.
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taffboy gwyrdd
Embrace the confusion!
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
I think so, yes. But I've not seen the actual story yet.
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
taffboy gwyrdd
Embrace the confusion!
Thanks brogdale.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
yvette cooper on newsnight. she looks like a loon with weird stary eyes.
Patteran
A nowadays excuse
This anti-semitism angle is getting a lot of traction online. The Chronicle editor's page on power base (thanks to nino_savatte for the site link) is worth a read - & links to this thread & this thread. Former leader writer for the Express, Henry Jackson Society, Civitas, Pfizer, etc.
Edited to add - I've made a mistake there - treelover posted a link to the Jewish News - I've responded by referencing a similar piece in the Jewish Chronicle,which echoes Alan Johnson's original in Left Foot Forward.
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nino_savatte
No pasaran!
I can remember an edition of BBC Breakfast just before the Iraq invasion. Ken Loach and Stephen Pollard were on the show being 'interviewed' by Bill Turnbull (Old Etonian) and 'Simpering' Sian Williams. Every time Loach opened his mouth to say something, Pollard shouted him down. This went on for about 4 minutes. Turnbull and Williams didn't intervene once and allowed Pollard to dominate. I'd never heard of Pollard before but made a point of keeping an eye on him thereafter.
Patteran
A nowadays excuse
I'd never heard of him before - or hadn't registered him. Thing is, there are genuine concerns about elements on the left tolerating or even sharing platforms with reactionary islamists or 'banks/rothschilds/jews' occupy cranks - & they've been discussed here before - but this isn't it, this is just a slur from the right wing.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
That's okay, as long as they don't wake Yog-Sothoth too!
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Puddy_Tat
naturally fluffy
These being the children being impoverished by tory policies that she won't oppose?
Get tae Fuck
(her not you that is. in the same way I assume the 'them' you hate is new labour, not the children of britain...
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agricola
a genuine importer of owls
The truly maddening thing about it is that the people who are coming out with that line are the ones most responsible for losing two elections to the Tories.
Puddy_Tat
naturally fluffy
the alarming thing is that some of them seem seriously to believe that they lose elections for not being enough like the tories.
hence the "ok, we're shit, all the bullshit the tories and their friends in the press have come out with about us being crap on the economy, crap on immigration, crap on benefits scroungers is right. we're going to be much more like the tories in future. please vote for us. we're exactly the same as the tories. only we're nicer. except to immigrants and benefits scroungers of course. we're nastier to them. vote for us. please? hello, is anyone still there?" sort of shit that they have been coming out with since 'red ed lost the election for being far too wadical'
J Ed
Follow Back Pro Expropriation
I think that this is a particularly dangerous stuff for a whole host of reasons but not least because it makes anti-Semitism seem less serious and feeds into tropes that accusations of anti-Semitism are made purely to defend Israeli foreign policy. It also equates the interests of all Jews with those of Israel.
Of course, the author of the piece does not give a shit about any of that.
Going by that Powerbase article, Pollard has been on the Blairite wing of Labour, maybe not always a Tory.
taffboy gwyrdd
Embrace the confusion!
That's very pertinent to what will go on with the attacks on Corbyn over Foreign Policy generally (FP is seen as something the left are way more obsessed with, we are about to see reactionaries start to give way more of a shit if it suits some clunky narratives)
I don't share all of Corbyns perspectives, but they are at least well informed. If he wins then mawkish pieces in The Scum etc. exploiting the loved ones of IRA violence will become pretty much a staple (and a useful break from race hate and celeb garbage). The facts of history will be neither her nor there.
Likewise, his position on the Middle East will be massively simplified, with the massive hypocricies of conservatism / imperialism here and abroad ignored. The Daily Mail won't bother to resurface their 30s paranoia about "Jews pouring into the country" which is a shocking mirror of todays Calais focussed poison.
The propaganda will neither be written by or for people who know the ins and outs of Sykes Picot or whatever. It's going to be hateful, and though there are always debates to be had around this stuff, I wonder if it's beholden on us to be overall on side against the elite forces of hatred and stupidity.
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free spirit
more tea vicar?
Let's hope the current situation continues then, where it seems that the more mud they fling at him, the more people decide they want to support him.
taffboy gwyrdd
Embrace the confusion!
At the moment, those people, important for now, are electors...the base. It's positive for his campaign that the effect is as it is. But the propagandameisters are putting together their material for the rest of the population.
This isn't going to be some phoney UKIP operation where the establishment essentially fetishise a naked reactionary emperor as some totem of rebellion.
free spirit
more tea vicar?
But he'd probably do as well on question time and the like as Farage does, and would actually go on it rather than being scared of it and hiding behind convention not to appear on it.
I hope he can still hack the pace of this sort of campaign he's doing now, it looks pretty relentless, but he must be loving it, his moment to shine after all these years.
I hope he can still hack the pace of this sort of campaign he's doing now, it looks pretty relentless, but he must be loving it, his moment to shine after all these years.
free spirit
more tea vicar?
in other news, Yvette Cooper is holding a meeting in Leeds on saturday afternoon in an 80 capacity room, and Liz Kendall's hosting an outdoor rally or something out side the leeds art gallery in the morning.
That Liz Kendall rally is almost tempting me to go and laugh. It looked like she had 150 people RSVPd, but 100 of them are from one poster called Jeremy Corbyn, with 99 guests.
Comparing that to the 1500+ people Corbyn attracted in Leeds last week doesn't bode well for the mainstream candidates (up here anyway).
That Liz Kendall rally is almost tempting me to go and laugh. It looked like she had 150 people RSVPd, but 100 of them are from one poster called Jeremy Corbyn, with 99 guests.
Comparing that to the 1500+ people Corbyn attracted in Leeds last week doesn't bode well for the mainstream candidates (up here anyway).
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
These attacks on him are all getting a bit random. Unelectable! Beards! Errrrr... Iran? Edge of a cliff! Perhaps anti-semitism? Yes, let's go with that. Oh hang on, what about pigeons? Yes, absolutely, pigeons is the theme of the day. Definitely. But he's got a bike! Right, get Alistair Campbell to do 2,000 words on bikes. And pigeons. Oh, and I bet he dropped a cat in a bin.
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